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Very pertinent article in today's Sunday Times by Simon Jenkins entitled It’s not a Blair police state we need fear, it’s his state police

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"Show me someone who says that they have never exceeded a speed limit, and I'll show you a liar, or a menace." (Austin Williams - Director, Transport Research Group)

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Here here! I touched briefly on this subject in THISpost, earlier today.

Interesting that Cumbria Police were offered the alternatives of joining Lancashire or Lancashire and Cheshire, yet an amalgamation with Durham, with anti terror experience, and a shared border with an alien police force (Scotland) with it's varied laws was NOT mooted!
Cumbria has far more in common with Durham than Lancashire!

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This is always an awkward point in any kind of regional policy, whether Cumbria belongs with Lancashire and Cheshire, or with Durham and Northumberland (using old-fashioned "real" counties).

I always tend to think culturally the latter, as you do, although transport links point the other way.

Incidentally, anyone with an interest in traditional counties should take a look at the Association of British Counties website.

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"Show me someone who says that they have never exceeded a speed limit, and I'll show you a liar, or a menace." (Austin Williams - Director, Transport Research Group)

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I did. I agree that the traditional counties are culturally important.

But the web site didn't answer my first question... What happened to Wessex? But Google found this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/cornwall/have_your ... n_10.shtml

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Paul Smith
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It's the transport links which need improving!! The three main routes across the penines are all to easily blocked by accidents or bad weather.
However, it should not be an obstacle to policing a border region with one force, unless you had to move men from one side to the other, and that would only happen if.....

Cumbria is a relatively new county (1971), so "traditional loyalties" do not apply! Whilst here in the south of the county, some see Lancashire as an obvious choice, this cannot be true of the north, where Newcastle is much closer than Lancaster or Preston.

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Just found this interesting comment from the BBC news today.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/4429794.stm

Mr MacLean is not known for quiet comment, but this broadside will find favour with many people in Cumbria!

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Now one comment on radio today, had to do with the cost .
Could this be an accountants merger - merge say seven forces into one - get rid of six CC , probably a goodly clutch of high rankers and reduce the cost of policing the same area by a large amount.Of course the same person did mention that the financial benefits possibly did /could not be reflected in the levels of policing at very local level

http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/sto ... 44,00.html



So it is time to make criminals of people for not being green! Lets start with those people who put up useless grey metal boxes that cost steel, waste film and keep useless lawers in the CPS employed producing nothing that can add to the gross national product

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

This story is already being discussed: http://www.safespeed.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4771

Please can we direct replies on the subject to the other thread?

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety