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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 18:31 
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Seems the DVLA have now found themselves another little earner.....they will sell your personal details to whoever wants to pay for them, and they will in turn prey on the "weak, gullible, whatever" and attempt to extort money from them.

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Perhaps the most notorious firm on the list, however, is Aquarius Security. The Portsmouth-based clamping company is run by Darren Havell and Gordon Miller, who in July were found guilty at Bristol Crown Court of extorting thousands of pounds from motorists.

Havell and Miller, the court heard, deliberately trapped drivers by blocking them in with a van - and even immobilised cars as they were being driven away. The pair would demand up to £300 to release the vehicles.

My girlfriends godfather & I actually met these two guys in a public car park one day in Waterlooville, after they had clamped his son's car because he returned to it 2 minutes after the ticket had expired.

It turned out they rather fancied themselves when "requesting" a £200 release fee from his son, but for some strange reason their "insistence" that the car could not be released until the money was paid seemed to disappear when they realised that his father was wearing a waistcoat bearing the insignia of a fairly well known motorcycle club :lol:


Full story >HERE<

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I read this last sunday as well, is there no depths this government will not reach to to persecute motorists?

It is appalling that such information can be sold on to anybody without even cursory criminal records checks.

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This type of thing has been going on for ages, well pre-dating the new legislation allowing anyone with "reasonable cause" to get the keeper's details from the DVLA.

I have written several times to the local paper about use of the database for non-motoring purposes. Here are two actual examples:

- A Council dog warden observes a man letting his dog foul a footpath. Instead of approaching him directly, the warden follows the man back to his car, gets the registration number and gets the details from the DVLA. The man received a penalty through the post.

- A Council litter warden observes a man throwing a cigarette end out of his car window. The rest is as above. £50 fine sent.

Neither would have been in receipt of a penalty (both of which were justified, however) if they had not been motorists and easily traceable.

What concerns me is the potential for almost any Council official (appointed with no vetting) to get your address from your car number. It is a car thieves and stalkers paradise. See a girl you fancy. Get her car number. Go round her house ....

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:gatso2: Having worked in the Civil Service for a time, I know for a fact that if I dared to sell any customer details or share them with any other non-governmental organisation, I would cause a major security breach, lose my job and end up in court, charged with breaking the Data Protection Act, Official Secrets Act and Computer Misuse Act.
So I just don't understand how the DVLA can do something like this and get away with it.

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I knew that the DVLA have been releasing vehicle data to companies for many years now, but it did surprise me that the systems appear to be fully automated. A while back I recall reading that all applications were by post, and the applicant had to provide proof, eg. a written statement or photo of a vehicle.

Also there were several private investigation firms on the list - one said they haven't used the system for five years, another claimed they occasionally use it to issue tickets in a client's car park.

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Want to steal a luxury car. Just jot down the number when you see it and dial up the home address.....bingo.

This is scandalous.

I was bumped by a car in a car park a few years ago. Someone jotted down the number and left it on a piece of paper under my wiper. I went to the police to try and get it followed up and they refused to give me the details of the owner of the car..............Grrrrrrrr

As usual the police did f*ck all. And I thought it was illegal to leave the scene of an accident. That is unless its on a motorway service station car park. Then they don't give a toss.

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Does anyone remember the movie "The Net" with Sandra Bullock? Say yes, please. The gateway to the dodgy organisation, one responsible for fraud and identity theft, that Sandra ended up fighting was a web site called "Mozart's Ghost". The Information Commission's on-hold music is the same Mozart piece. Paranoid and also ironic, but just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you!
The IC told me that the DVLA is in their rights to reveal personal information to anyone who falls inside their own policy in that respect. They couldn't tell me who fell outside that realm.
I feel we'd be as well just posting our address and phone number details on our cars and save these people the cost of calling DVLA.


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Well, we all know what kind of people the clamping firms employ. Criminal records as long as your arm. Are you happy with these people (and their friends) knowing where you live?

So a paedophile takes a fancy to your child. Takes your reg and has a chat with his old jail buddy who works for a clamping firm.....

Are you scared yet?

And the great thing is, when Alistair Darling's GPS-based road charging system goes in, details all of your daily movements will be up for sale to the higest bidder too. Not only will the criminals know where you live, they'll know what times of day you're not in!! It will be like shooting fish in a barrel....

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This was in the Mail on Sunday.

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Might prove interesting --


SUMMARY OF RESPONSES ON THE INTRODUCTION OF A VOLUNTARY CODE OF PRACTICE FOR PRIVATE CAR PARKING COMPANIES ENFORCING CONTRAVENTIONS ON PRIVATE LAND



http://www.dvla.gov.uk/public/consult/p ... arking.htm



Voluntary Code of Practice for Private Car Parking Enforcement

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/codeprac.htm


There is a list of companies thet DVLA provide info on reg no's to - but at this time i cant find it - it's definately on their site.

Edit -found it -http://www.dvla.gov.uk/whats_new/whats_new.htm

and click on --List of Private Car Parking Enforcement Companies who apply to
DVLA for information on vehicle keepers.

It's in the form of a word doc.

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