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At what range does a mobile camera (van) begin to track your car.i.e driving towards the speed camera vehicle,at what range does it start to track u.Anyone know thank u.

Maximum about a mile but they usualy pull the trigger at about 250 yards as far as I understand (thats what the local SCP say anyway)

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many thanks

They can hit you at 999.9 metres and many are hit at 700- 800 metres. Basically they can hit you before you can see them.

My car was lasered at 728 metres, after the camera operator formed a prior opinion that I was speeding from 1/2 a mile away.

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My car was lasered at 728 metres, after the camera operator formed a prior opinion that I was speeding from 1/2 a mile away. [/quote]


The camera operator formed a prior opinion that i was speeding "

Was the guy a police officer - was his eyesight above average - could he even see your car at 1/2 mile range -

Just some thoughts on what has been said on this site on other posts
(But of coarse, the scamerati never,never tell anything but the truth)

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He was a civilian with 2 months service on the speed camera vans.

A quote from his day in court. " I used to be in an armed response unit and can assure you (Talking to Mags) that it is as easy to hit someone with a firearm at 700m as it is to hit them at 100M." (Or words to that effect.)

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Did the Mags actually believe that? Isn't that bordering on perjury? If he was actually in ARU then he would know better.

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The camera operator formed a prior opinion that i was speeding


Didn't we see on other posts that only a properly qualified POLICE OFFICER could do that.

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but if the officer retired on a Friday / started as an operator on the following Monday his opinion does not count!!!,

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Many a true word etc, he's not a warrant holding police officer any more, and how many retired police officers would willingly opt for that job??

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the are quite a few believe me

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The person's qualifications are irrelevant: the law says that testimony from a constable about his opinion of the vehicle's speed is admissable evidence.

(Two pieces of evidence are required for a conviction: the opinion of 2 constables is enough, or evidence from one constable supported by a type approved device, or 2 pieces of independent evidence from a type approved device eg a Gatso)

If a non-constable were able to give an opinion of speed as evidence, then any two members of the public could give their opinions to a court about someone's speed, and the magistrates would be required to convict. (It would also mean the opinion of an accused member of the public would bear equal weight to any prosecuting officer's testimony!)

i covered this not long after i starting posting in here, i gave the example of when i was in the CCTV control room, if i saw someone having a kicking i did have to call a pc to say yes an offence is being commited film it, i filmed it whilst despatching units.

as a camera operator (trained, authorised) if i believe someone is exceeding the limit i aim / pull trigger and act on the reading it is not rocket science

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But your opinion that they are speeding is 50% of the evidence. If a non-constable can give their opinion, then what is to stop the accused stating that in their opinion they were not speeding?

If a car pulled out in front of me would this affect the reading of the mobile speed camera van

You can believe what you like and pull your trigger when you like, but if you are a civilian, then your opinion is NOT admissable in court.

As I was approaching the van, the operator formed his opinion from a distance greater than 720 metres. Let's estimate 800M.

So, anyone want to try this? Find a landmark on a long straight road set your mileometer to zero. Drive away from the landmark until the mileometer reaches 0.5 miles.

Then sit in the back of your vehicle and hold a camera and LASER gun in front of you. A cardboard box will do for effect.

Look around the box and back down the road, at a car passing the landmark and try to estimate the speed that the vehicle is doing.

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But your opinion that they are speeding is 50% of the evidence. If a non-constable can give their opinion, then what is to stop the accused stating that in their opinion they were not speeding?[/quote]

nothing, the evidence / results of the LTI is on tape, i can sit at a site

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Where's the required corroboration then?

Just a quickie, My understanding was that a laser operator must target a vehicle with a clear line of sight.

I received an NIP, got the pictures and paid the fine with 3points.

But now I am curious. To have targetted me, as the operator tracked my vehicle, the laser must have passed through at least 1 lamp post, several fenceposts and one of those rotating signs at a petrol station.

Would that still be accurate?

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I don't know enough about 'em but I'd have thought that it could potentially go skew-wif, especially with the rotating petrol station sign. Anyone know if that's come up before?

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