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The Government is poised to back track on its war on motorists by insisting that revenue from speeding fines can only be used to erect more speed cameras as a last resort.
Money raised from speeding fines will instead be mostly used for road safety schemes such as better road layouts.
The changes, set to be announced by Transport Secretary Alistair Darling, will stop the further expansion of the number of speed cameras.
Under Mr Darling's plans, instead of the partnerships spending the money raised on cameras and then the surplus going to the Treasury, cash will be picked up by central government and then some handed back to the partnerships for safety schemes.
The move comes amid concern that motorists have lost faith in the system and feel that they are being persecuted.
Conservative transport spokesman Chris Grayling said: "We will support the Government if they intend to make the speed camera regime more sensible.
"We have long said the number of speed cameras is excessive.
"The massive growth in their number has been caused by the system Labour put in place which encourages safety camera partnerships to install as many cameras as possible to get as much money as possible."
Around £120m was raised in fines last year from two million prosecutions of drivers caught on the nation's 6,000 speed cameras.
From 2003 to 2004, cameras in Lancashire brought in £5.1m in fines. £3.4m covered running costs of Lancashire Partnership for Road Safety, and £1.7m was profit.
Speed cameras have made headlines in Lancashire almost from the day they were introduced.
In July 2005 we revealed the number of police officers patrolling Lancashire's roads had dropped by a fifth since 1995.
But controversy was sparked when it emerged the reduction overlapped with the introduction of nearly 300 speed cameras in the county.
The Evening Post's outspoken campaign claimed victory the same month when Government bosses confirmed no new cameras would be installed – until it is proved Gatsos save lives.
The Department for Transport said applications for new sites will not be granted until an independent review of the cameras' effectiveness is complete.

what the DfT don't say quite so publicly is that the scheme's must be speed management related and about getting drivers to slow down. Genuine road safety schemes are still excluded.