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I wish that anyone who says people are not influenced by what they see on TV, could have seen my son after he watched an episode of the "Power Rangers", and started ficking out kung-foo style at all and sundry! He had NO concept of the result of being kicked in this fashion!!
And it's NOT only children who are affected in this manner!


Totally agree.

I have two teenagers and they ARE affected by what they see on TV as they and many others see TV as reality. Not perhaps in their concious mind, but the subconcious which controls their behaviour patterns. If it is done on Eastenders, in some violent 'Sweatshisknickers' film or some nasty PS game, then the subconcious can become desensitised to it and violence can come into what is perceived as acceptable behaviour.

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I wish that anyone who says people are not influenced by what they see on TV, could have seen my son after he watched an episode of the "Power Rangers", and started ficking out kung-foo style at all and sundry! He had NO concept of the result of being kicked in this fashion!!
And it's NOT only children who are affected in this manner!


I used to love roadrunner myself, but never found the need to throw my sister off a cliff, drop an anvil on her head or blow her up with acme dynamite. although I was taught disapline from a young age.

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I wish that anyone who says people are not influenced by what they see on TV, could have seen my son after he watched an episode of the "Power Rangers", and started ficking out kung-foo style at all and sundry! He had NO concept of the result of being kicked in this fashion!!
And it's NOT only children who are affected in this manner!


I used to love roadrunner myself, but never found the need to throw my sister off a cliff, drop an anvil on her head or blow her up with acme dynamite. although I was taught disapline from a young age.


This is the point I was making. One video game, one TV show, one film probably doesn't affect one person over one lifetime.
But widen ones view away from an individual level out to a societal level and mix together all the external factors that all suggestive people are exposed to, and I am 110% positive that the excesses of popular culture are serving us ill in the long run.

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This is the point I was making. One video game, one TV show, one film probably doesn't affect one person over one lifetime.
But widen ones view away from an individual level out to a societal level and mix together all the external factors that all suggestive people are exposed to, and I am 110% positive that the excesses of popular culture are serving us ill in the long run.


every form of popular culture and entertainment to exist was considered decadent in it's time though, from classical music to the tango to bill haley. it's peoples attitudes that are the problem, and their willingness to find an easy scapegoat to blame. all in all, the arguement is not that far removed from speed camera culture.

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Perhaps we need to put it all into perspective. The vast majority of children/teenagers/young adults turn out alright, fair enough I'm sure most do things they regret, but ultimatly it's only a small percentage that go completely off the rails. So how come most turn out alright, but a few do not? Surely the majority are exposed to the same popular culture as the minority but are seemingly unaffected by it. So something specific is going wrong with the minority that is making them behave that way, and it can't be popular culture per se. I would suggest that certainly a part of it goes back to upbringing and how respect for others and cultural norms are instilled by ones family. The other part is the government gradually taking away all personal responsibility. It's a sad state of affairs when teenage girls see having a child as a career and short-cut to a life on benefits. While society has a duty of care, it needs to be crystal clear that it's not an acceptable life choice. So what hope have the children of these single teen mums got in learning the feeling of self-respect that working for a living gives you?


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Its my view that it is not just the suggestable few who are affected.
Changing values and cheapening of attitudes towards respect and dignity are affecting us all.

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Am finding that manners are a lost art these days and so is teaching them, too many parents are blaming the school, who are underfunded, understaffed and attacked on all sides.

And we wonder why teachers are leaving in droves.

Why not parents reponsible, that's a novel idea!

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I wish that anyone who says people are not influenced by what they see on TV, could have seen my son after he watched an episode of the "Power Rangers", and started ficking out kung-foo style at all and sundry! He had NO concept of the result of being kicked in this fashion!!
And it's NOT only children who are affected in this manner!


I used to love roadrunner myself, but never found the need to throw my sister off a cliff, drop an anvil on her head or blow her up with acme dynamite. although I was taught disapline from a young age.

You have hit the nail on the head - without realising it.
The difference is in the way the violence is presented. In the cartoon, the link with reality is at best tenuous, but in live action film, it is all too real.
We live in an age of special effects, and ZAP culture, in which everyone wants fulfilment at the press of a button.
The result is we (as a society) rather lazily believe most of what we see on TV, because we cannot be bothered to investigate and think for ourselves.
(Present company excepted, otherwise you wouldnt be here having this discussion!! :roll: )

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You know the A27? Heading west, where they've never built the Arundel bypass, the A27 just peels off on a slip road, and the dual carriageway just terminates in a grass bank?

I've always wanted to paint a picture of a road tunnel on there to see if anyone drove in to it.

I definitely blame the influence of Roadrunner...


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I hope this case gets gets maximum publicity! It would be great if other tailgating drivers ceased this habit!

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You know the A27? Heading west, where they've never built the Arundel bypass, the A27 just peels off on a slip road, and the dual carriageway just terminates in a grass bank?

I've always wanted to paint a picture of a road tunnel on there to see if anyone drove in to it.

I definitely blame the influence of Roadrunner...


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I wish that anyone who says people are not influenced by what they see on TV, could have seen my son after he watched an episode of the "Power Rangers", and started ficking out kung-foo style at all and sundry! He had NO concept of the result of being kicked in this fashion!!
And it's NOT only children who are affected in this manner!


I used to love roadrunner myself, but never found the need to throw my sister off a cliff, drop an anvil on her head or blow her up with acme dynamite. although I was taught disapline from a young age.

You have hit the nail on the head - without realising it.
The difference is in the way the violence is presented. In the cartoon, the link with reality is at best tenuous, but in live action film, it is all too real.
We live in an age of special effects, and ZAP culture, in which everyone wants fulfilment at the press of a button.
The result is we (as a society) rather lazily believe most of what we see on TV, because we cannot be bothered to investigate and think for ourselves.
(Present company excepted, otherwise you wouldnt be here having this discussion!! :roll: )


well thats your job as a parent to teach them the difference between right and wrong, what is and isn't acceptable. Perhaps instead of talking about how helpless you are to stop them imitating the TV you should switch off the offending show next time it's on and tell them why, so they understand the the difference between TV and reality?

My sister teaches kickboxing, and her club have classes for some very lit'luns too. and you can't expose kids to much more in-your-face violence than that, not legally anyway. but they're taught disapline and respect at the same time so don't go around using it wantonly.

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Now - seen the bit about TV stuff etc.
Bit of reality - ---- last week snowed in our street. Came home to find little scrote making iceballs and using our house as target . Collared him - to get usual venom. Being as how we are council tenants and we have to obey protocal , i knocked on his house - litle scrote's mum answered - to be told " dont talk to him, thats the enemy"
Wish he was one of mine -
at 17 or older - wham bang , sorry son would be the order of the day.

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