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In the Mail on Sunday today (so it must be true ) a report that the new Road Safety Bill contains a provision to forcibly withdraw the old style paper driving licences and insist on everyone having an ID card. Sorry, I mean a photo driving licence.

If true, this is a sneaky, but typical, Government fix up which will cost a fortune for minimal benefit.

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Malcolm W.
The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not represent the views of Safespeed.

I'm still on the old green license and I'll quite happily have a new style ID card (license), but there is no way on this earth I am going to pay for it.

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What makes you think I'm drunk officer, have I got a fat bird with me?

I simply cannot believe that the new driving licence is TWO documents. (card and counterpart)

Clearly it is impossible to justify having two documents when one will do the job. Don't they understand it's wasteful to have 32 million unnecessary documents floating around?

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Paul Smith
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Those of us who have LGV and PCV licences used to have three separate licences. Now they are all on the one licence, a saving of one piece of paper.

Will no one please think of the poor trees und ozone layer damage caused by chopping them down to make the counter parts und the pollution caused by making all that plastic!

I do not see how this ist going to improve safety at any level

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You don't have to pay for it.

Really Liebchen?

But I seem to recall reading something about a £20/30 fee because of admin costs und production of the card itself. But it was probably in the "Wail"

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Nicht ganz im Lot!
Ich setze mich immer wieder in die Nesseln! Der Mad Doc ist mein Mann! Und ich benutzte seinen PC!

UND OUR SMILEYS? Smile ... und the the world smiles with you.
Smiley guy seen when you read
Fine me for Safe Speed
(& other good causes..)

Greatest love & Greatest Achievements Require Greatest Risk
But if you lose the driving plan - don't lose the COAST lesson.
Me?
Je ne regrette rien!

Yes you do, and it will cost you £19.
http://www.dvla.gov.uk/drivers/applydl.htm#cost

Add the cost (about £5 now) for a couple of passport photo's and it comes to £24.
Now I spend more than that in one round on a Friday night (but that is because I want to), if I am going to be "forced" to have something then there is no way I am paying for it.

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What makes you think I'm drunk officer, have I got a fat bird with me?

When I moved house they tried to charge me for a photo driving licence. I told them I didn't want it and they could just hang onto my details as I had informed them of the move and that was my legal obligation done. They badgered me a few times, then gave up. After about a year they wrote me a letter trumpeting the fact that for address changes photo cards were free

The more and more you annoy people with petty legislation the more people lose respect for the law and start to ignore it.

Even if it were "free" to upgrade at the point of application, you would still pay for it through general taxation.

This is nothing to do with road safety and everything to do with the Government wanting to impose controls on the public without reduction of freedoms being discussed properly and opposed.

One of my colleagues mentioned that his father, who lives in South Africa, was visiting him for Christmas. I thought he might feel right at home here in an intrusive "police state" where he would be under constant surveillance.

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Malcolm W.
The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not represent the views of Safespeed.

Ahhh, yes my bad there. This is how I got mine done for free, I changed address.


Soooo, if you temporarily "move in" with your parents/sister/brother/etc and change address then you get a new licence free.
And then you move back again in a (ahem) sudden reconciliation with your widfe/flatmate/etc etc

I managed to find a rather amusing little 'loop hole' with the 2 part licence. I don't know whether or not you'd be able to do this with the old style or not...

A lorry driver mate of my other half's laminated the paper part of his licence because it was falling apart. Subsequently he got pinged for speeding, so he sent the whole lot back off to DVLA for processing and when he got the licence back, they'd written the endorsement on top of the lamination in biro, so he just wiped it off!

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And thats the only loophole - now , if i move to my daughters for a few weeks coz me and mrs B have had a fight , can i get a new licence and a free change of address if we kiss and make up

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But what does that achieve?

Aside from the fact that the indentation from the biro will still be 'engraved' in the laminate, DVLA will still have his conviction on their records regardless.

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What makes you think I'm drunk officer, have I got a fat bird with me?

There were various "options" the DVLA were considering when altering the various fees, I believe the current structure relies on the paper licence recall being charged at £5, some options were for a free swap-out and some other charges being increased.

Gareth

My attitude is rather simple and will NEVER change.....

You want me to have something, then you foot the bill for it!

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What makes you think I'm drunk officer, have I got a fat bird with me?