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From todays Daily Mail, 17 Jan 2006.

Speed Police are wrong.

If the police camera van is clocking motorists on the A11 at a speed restriction which drops in one step from 70mph to 30 mph, the fines cannot be enforced.
It's illegal to change a speed limit in one step from 70mph to 30mph. A speed limit can be reduced only by a maximum of 30mph, or there must be two smaller speed restrictions. This is why a speed limit normally changes from 70mph, to 50mph, and then 30mph.
A police officer treid to enforce a fine on me where there was a 40mph drop on the M6 at junction 40 near Penrith. I pointed the error out to him and he was gobsmacked. I suspect all the A11 drivers could demand their money back.


D K Aspatria.


Is this ruling for real?

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It seams feasable!

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

Sounds like an old wives' tale to me.

There are several 70-30 drops on roads turning off the A34 Handforth/Wilmslow bypass, for example - and some on the A523 Silk Road in Macclesfield where the limit drops from 70 to 30 on approaching a roundabout.

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I've never heard of such a law. And I'm pretty sure that I would have done if it were true.

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Paul Smith
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I am sure you can turn from a 70 mph road in to a 30mph road.
but in the road marking and signing manual which is A2 size and about 2" thick every combination and lay out of signing and spacing is laid out in the smallest detail. I have never seen a 70mph duel carraigeway drop directly from 70 to 30 Which sugests it may not comply with laid down regulations.

Remember that awfull Trevor Mcdonald program with all the combinations of signs and white lines? The same applies to motorways and duel carriageways.

I will dig the book out at work tomorrow!
Edit: Sorry my colleages no longer have the book..

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code