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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 18:04 
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Numerous people and websites advise keeping a camera in the car to take snaps of any accidents that you might be unlucky enough to be involved in. Good advice as even the safest driver can find themselves in a prang of sorts, sat in traffic when someone comes from behind for example. Anyway, I have a good resolution camera phone that I always have on me and thought that this would suffice in such an incident. But I recently read that digital photos are not submissible in court. Is this true, or a case of someone mis-interpretting information?

By the way, I realise most claims are unlikely to go to court but you never know... And knowing how picky insurance companies can be, do they accept them as evidence?


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Criminal courts make decisions 'beyond a reasonable doubt', but civil courts make their decisions 'on a balance of probabilities'.

Accordingly a criminal court may find it difficult to accept digital photo evidence because of the possibility of tampering, but a civil court is much more likely to find any evidence at all helpful in its decision making process.

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I carry a 35mm cheapo disposable in car in case of problem. I also have old camcorder which ist not digital und I also have polaraoid, digital camera und digital camcorder to produce immediate photos of whatever. If we were ever in situation whereby we need to submit any such evidence - we would make sure the 35 mm film was produced - und also produce the negatives to prove nothing was doctored in any way. But the digital doo-dah helps re recall, diagram and position when submitting claim forms as one person we know found. She was hit on off side rear when pulling up at lights. Was biker. He claimed a sudden lane change to the L1 - but hit was all wrong. When faced with evidence - he then claimed a 150 yard skid from lane change to point of impact - only this meant speed in excess of 70 mph on his part in crawling traffic. His case failed as both 35mm film and digital taken at scene within moment of impact prove this fact. Basically he had passed through set one of a Green flow light system on a red und was forced to brake hard when car in front was stopping because of amber change. Photo evidence proved that second und third lights in the trio set change 0.5 second after the previous set to enable the flows in congested area.

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In advance sorry for long response...

Yes Digital Photography can be used in criminal investigations and prosecutions BUT there has to be a verifiable audit trail detailing how digital evidence is handled, so to all practicle purposes it may be better in this context to have a disposable film camera unless you are able to do the following.

What you should do once the photo is taken is burn it onto disc ASAP, any more than 24 hours and forget it mark that disc as 'Secure evidence' also write time and date on the disc.

Take a copy of the disc (this subsequent disc can be used to make further copies), then place 'Secure evidence' in an envelope and seal, write your name and signature across the seal again with the date.

Any Copies of the initial disk should be labelled copy 1, copy 2 etc again with time and date written on disc.

To be fair it is easier for an organisation to do this, I have had many of my site photos used in court, mainly civil but several criminal and I have only ever used a digital camera. As long as you can prove that the data has not been altered it's admissable


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http://www.parliament.the-stationery-of ... st0501.htm


Extract from the National Investigations Manual - by Nick Warburton

Prosecutions can be won or lost on the evidence at hand. For enforcement officers involved in putting together cases, gathering evidence that can stand up in court is an integral part of the process and can often rely on photographic evidence collected with digital cameras. Nevertheless, many enforcement officers worry that evidence of this sort could be thrown out of court - photographic evidence is open to manipulation and there is a danger that it may be dismissed as being an inaccurate copy of an "original". What procedures should enforcement officers follow to ensure the evidence is admissible and are there any potential pitfalls they should avoid?

The Environment Agency, which brings hundreds of successful prosecutions every year, provides its enforcement officers with detailed advice on what procedures to follow for using digital cameras at incident scenes and what to do afterwards. While individual local authorities may adopt different procedures, the EA advice does offer a handy guide for EHPs involved in gathering photographic evidence.

To begin with, enforcement officers should be experienced and skilled in the equipment they are using. At the scene of an incident, they should take photographs at standard resolution and make a pocketbook entry detailing the photographs they have taken. Officers should avoid altering the resolution to take more photographs and swap memory cards instead to take additional shots. The problem with changing the resolution is that altering it may mean the images are not adequate for legal files. Officers should resist deleting photographs from the memory to create more space or to improve on a photo because the original photographs comprise unused material.

Back at the office, officers should immediately produce a master CD-ROM that contains all of the images on the memory card, no matter what incident they relate to by using a computer with a CD writer. It is very important that when officers transfer the images from the memory card to the computer they do not delay producing a disk. The computer system is not secure. Each image should be given a different reference on the disk. At this point, the officer should make a note relating to the preparation of the disk, which will later be used as part of an officers' witness statement. This could say something along the lines of:

"...at 16.40 hours on Friday, 22 June 2005, I returned to the offices of X authority. At 16.50 the digital camera was connected to a PC. I transferred the 30 images stored on the memory card to the computer and immediately burnt the images to a CD-ROM, which I now produce as SLM1."

After the disk has been produced, officers must check that all the images are stored on it. If they are, the disk should be retained because this is original evidence and must be produced as an exhibit. After the disk has been produced, the contents of the memory card can be stored on the computer. Once this has been done, the photographs on the memory card can also be erased so that it can be reused for another investigation.

When the officer comes to present the case in court, using photographs as exhibits, they should also provide a witness statement that contains information like:

"On Thursday, 25 July 2005 at 1100 hours, I had examined a CD-ROM (exhibit SLM1). From that disk of 30 images, I now produce 2 images. The first is a photo labelled PHOTO3.jpg that shows the food work surfaces at Richards Road (exhibit reference SLM2), the second labelled PHOTO4.jpg, which food storage areas at Richards Road (exhibit reference SLM3). I confirm that both of these photographs are accurate representations of what I saw that day."

While this is being done, a pocketbook entry should be made of any actions the officer took. Should it be necessary to manipulate a photograph to draw attention to a particular point, this is admissible in court as long as the original photograph is also exhibited. It is vitally important, however, that the witness statement contains a paragraph explaining how the photograph has been manipulated. This could be something like:

"Closer examination of one of storage area in exhibit SLM3 shows that the food has been spoiled. I have prepared a close up photograph of this taken from exhibit SLM3 that I now produce as exhibit reference SLM4. This shows that there are mouse droppings in the food."

Once all of these procedures have been carried out, the master copy should be retained and store in a secure place at all times because it may be required for subsequent court appearances. Master copies are subject to rules of evidence and any material retention periods. Master copies should be kept in sealed cases using appropriate security labels and stored in an environment that will not subject them to varying degrees of temperature of humidity. Labels should include the same information that is recorded on the surface of the CDR master copy. If there are no appropriate security labels, the master copies should be placed in sealed evidence bags, which clearly identify the contents of the CDR.

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Have found a copy of The Home Office Digital Imaging Procedure Version 1.0 it's effectively the chapter and verse.

Knew I had it somewhere !!

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It will not be long before 35mm film is as dubious as digital, given that you can create 35mm negatives from digital files.

The evidence trail becomes more and more important!


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I keep a disposable camera in the glovebox of my cars for just such a purpose... and then forgot to use it when someone ran into me 10 days ago... :(


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stackmonkey wrote:
I keep a disposable camera in the glovebox of my cars for just such a purpose... and then forgot to use it when someone ran into me 10 days ago... :(


The trouble with a disposale film camera being kept in a car glovebox is that when you come to use it the film may be unusable due to the conditions it has been kept in and you won't know until you get the shots developed.


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