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Following Idris' High Court defeat on the "unsigned forms" issue I have agreed with Idris Francis to gather funding for an appeal to the House of Lords.

It's urgent that we get this funding appeal up and running because there is a limited time to lodge the House of Lords appeal application. The limit is 21 days after publication of judgment.

About £12,000 is needed.

Here's the proposal:

1) Donations would not be returnable if the case didn't go ahead.
2) First call on the funds would be the Idris appeal to the HoL.
3) Left over or unused funds would go into Safe Speed's general fund.

At this stage we cannot say for certain if an appeal will go ahead. We cannot decide until the judgment has been published, and even then there is the following question that must be answered: "Is taking this particular case further worthwhile?"

For:
* There's a chance of bringing down speed camera law
* In the HoL we get the chance to air wider "public interest" arguments

Against:
* The chances of winning appear fairly slim
* We might be able to do more good with the same cash spent elsewhere
* Even if we did win, they would probably go on and repair the law relatively quickly
* This isn't a major battle in the war for real road safety - it's just a side show

Unknown:
* The content of the judgment

I am inclined to believe that the opportunity to air the public interest argument in the House of Lords is quite a compelling argument. The case for speed cameras not being in the public interest is now an extremely strong one, and winning that argument could change the course of road safety history.

Accordingly I am ready to receive funds for the Idris Appeal via any of the methods shown on Safe Speed page:

http://www.safespeed.org.uk/join.html (credit card, cheque, bank transfer, PayPal and Nochex)

Later today this information will be published to the following new Safe Speed page:

http://www.safespeed.org.uk/idrisappeal.html (this page does not yet exist)

You can use the following direct link to make a PayPal donation now:

https://www.paypal.com/xclick/business= ... y_code=GBP

Please be generous. Whatever happens, I promise that the money will be well spent on the cause of genuine road safety.

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

I've stuck my £20.00 in.... every little helps and this is a very just cause. Money where your mouths are boys and girls!!!!

sold!

first thing when I get paid I will post my contribution, along with a membership fee.
I warm to people with the balls to make a stand!

And if it dont go ahead then just bung the money into the safespeed coffers.

Though I reckon funds will need to be gathered on a larger scale in order to get enough...any ideas?

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In the old days they employed the thief taker general to catch highway robbers...these days they simply employ the thief takers to do the robberies

Thanks. Appreciated.



I'm working on a press release - We will get some press mentions and that will certainly help. It will figure on the Front Page of the Safe Speed web site, and that will help. I'll try to get it listed on the front page of other web sites too.

I'm also wide open to ideas, especially further ways to interest the media.

It won't help that I'll be away this coming week - I have presentations in Northern Ireland (Monday) and to a group of MPs and Peers at Westminster on Thursday. I'll be back Friday some time.

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

Hi All,

The Official Idris Francis Appeal is now up and running. The following web page provides the information required.

http://www.safespeed.org.uk/idrisappeal.html

Please support the cause generously.

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

its in the post

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In the old days they employed the thief taker general to catch highway robbers...these days they simply employ the thief takers to do the robberies

I have heard in the last 30 minutes that there will be no appeal.

Various legal-technical and practical reasons were given. Once I have full details I will post again.

Bad luck Idris.

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety