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Too much of our money is being wasted on supposed road safety improvements that are actually making driving more dangerous.

Hear, Hear!!

humps are chuffing noisy as it is.

the councils also won't respond to honking each humps well. a much better plan is to put some humps outside the council offices and drive back and forth, braking and accelerating. also make it so that the councillors car park has a oversized hump in front of it, badly made. they'll learn that way.

often councils use humps as a means of pissing off areas that have little voters of the party with the majority. honking will only make the politicians more happy .

Simon

Thankfully, because the humps on my road damage mine and my wife's car even when travelling significantly under the speed limit,

a. The money I spend on tyres, and realignment keeps me from filling up with that pesky environment damaging petrol as often as I would like.

and

b. The resulting suspension damage and uneven tyre wear makes me drive fearfully and more slowly around the corners therefore encouraging me to kill fewer pedestrians and fellow road users.

Just for fun the humps are badly placed and the tarmac is steadily sinking around them so virtually everyone is affected. Apart from anyone driving a transit sized van or bigger. These careful and highly qualified delivery drivers\builders etc. can motor over the humps as quick as they like. Places to go people to see!

Good work Canterbury CC!

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Too much of our money is being wasted on supposed road safety improvements that are actually making driving more dangerous.

South Glos - who I am sure are on commission from whoever makes these humps - have recently excelled themselves.

30mph residential road 2 minutes from my house, acts as a link road between one residential 30mph and an open 40mph single carriageway.

This area is strewn with speed humps that most people seem to ignore these days anyway, but this particular stretch had been clear, until last week....

One short stretch of this road, next to a pedestrian crossing they have chosen to install one hump each side. Fine. Except the builders van was parked in said side of road (thereby totally blocking it off) with no warning signs only cones, and this is on the entrance to a side-turning with shops and a pub. So we have cars forced onto the wrong side of a residential street, with limited visibility, and a busy junction exiting. I have this as 2 JPGs thanks to my digital camera being handy at the time.

The second set of humps is on the approach/exit from a roundabout at the "40mph road" end of this short stretch - the road is widening for the roundabout and there is a 12foot or so chevron in the middle. As these chevrons converge is an exit from a residential road. They've put a hump on each carriageway, but left the chevrons clean - with just about space for 2 cars to pass in this space with no humps.....

I plan on getting JPGs of this one night soon.

North Bristol, Yate by any chance? Take a look at www.humps.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk where a valiant fellow is trying to get humps removed. Onother salt-of-the-earth fellow is battling against the imposition of humps in Warmley (not far away) The S. Glos. council want to rip up a perfectly effective traffic 'calming' scheme and plaster the area in humps. He leafleted about 1500 homes and got overwhelming support.

Only do this if you are in Wales, where arguing is the national pastime. Elsewhere, only use your horn while your vehicle is moving and you need to warn other road users of your presence. Never sound your horn aggressively. You must not use your horn while stationary on the road when driving in a built up area between the hours of 11.30 pm and 7.00 am except when another vehicle poses a danger.

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I stole this .sig

basingwerk wrote:


Oh and the Fens where a real Welsh expert has brought the art

Nope, Bradley Stoke. Webbs Wood Road for anyone who may be local. I now have JPGs of the offending humps, including one with a car taking the middle line which clearly shows the accident that I am sure is waiting to happen.

The raw JPGs are 750k-ish, if anyone wants these drop me a mail, otherwise I'll try to reduce them a little before uploading them.

Only do this if you are in Wales, where arguing is the national pastime. Elsewhere, only use your horn while your vehicle is moving and you need to warn other road users of your presence. Never sound your horn aggressively. You must not use your horn while stationary on the road when driving in a built up area between the hours of 11.30 pm and 7.00 am except when another vehicle poses a danger.
Basingwerk writes the above, use this good advise to sound the horn within legal limits. I always sound the horn while moving and to warn other road users some of whom are walking. The growing policy of "give the humps the horn " amongst responsible road users focused on safety is becoming more common, if you haven't tried this I recommend it. We should all join the current govenment policy of making driving safer, use your horn and let the local authorities know, you are helping them in their road safety endeavours.
Happy humping!!
RJ

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Too much of our money is being wasted on supposed road safety improvements that are actually making driving more dangerous.

We are currently fighting proposals to rip out one traffic calming scheme and replace it with humps in Warmley South Glos. The damn things are cropping up everywhere thanks to the Lib Dem/Labour anti car Nazis on the council. I am sure it will adversely affect property prices. I for one will never buy a house on a hump infested road. We all need to be very vigilant about this. Read all the public notices in the local press and look out for those A4 sized notices attached to the occasional lamp post. When action is required it is imperative to start a campaign by leafleting the local houses and businesses and bring their views to the attention of the council, local MPs etc AND ensure they take notice!

I agree with Scrumpy, it is time the auto driving public, made the government and their appointed agents in the highways authority, aided and abetted by the councils, that we are not prepared to put up with their stupidity any more. Every year we the road users collectively pay over 45 billion pounds into the treasury. For that we are treated with contempt, seen and regarded as morons fit only to be told what we can and can't do. To add insult to injury the roads get narrower with a policy to reduce all dual carriageways down to singles clearly being implemented. On top of this we are being softened up, made to believe tolls on roads we already own is the best option for our transport future.
How much longer do they think we will accept this constant degrading of our rights and our rights of way. The next election is an opportunity to challenge all those standing for office, ask what is their intention regarding road planning if the answers are negative vote for another who is alive to the debacle that is road policy in the UK today.
RJ

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Too much of our money is being wasted on supposed road safety improvements that are actually making driving more dangerous.

HEADLINE: Bus Company Gets The Hump.

This was a genuine headline in my local paper a few months back after they spent many millions on articulated buses. Why articulated? Because more people could fit on them, especially mothers with pushchairs etc. This was seen and agreed by the council as a great idea. So, what did they do? They put speed humps on about 3 miles of the route these buses used and within 18 months every single one of the fleet was withdrawn due to major structural damage to the central hinge.
The official report from Volvo, the chassis builders sited the height and ferocity of the speed humps as the major casue of the damage!
So now they have gone back to standard buses and fewer people are using them again. Great public transport policy!!!!

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The police ARE the law, not ABOVE it!!!

I'm surprised everyone has missed a valid argument against road humps.
What if you were seriously injured and you needed an ambulance and your chances of survival depended on how fast you were taken to hospital? Wouldn't your chances be reduced if the ambulance had to slow down to negotiate speed bumps?

...or if you had a serious back/neck injury.

three points

1 To avoid damaging your car drive slowly over humps.

Yes humps are there to damage your car, thats the point.

2 You are less likely to need an ambulance if you slow down while driving.

Or some kid you knock down.

3 You can honk your horn all you want but, knowbody uses my old street anymore as a shortcut since they filled it with humps.

Added half as much again to my property value, silence is bliss.

Am now campaigning for cameras in my new street (non residential)

No speed over humps will avoid long-term damage.


What, all that crashing of delivery vans and dustbin lorries over humps leads to silence?


Presumably if you live there it must be residential. And they never put cameras on residential streets as the revenue potential is so low.

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"Show me someone who says that they have never exceeded a speed limit, and I'll show you a liar, or a menace." (Austin Williams - Director, Transport Research Group)

Any views expressed in this post are personal opinions and may not represent the views of Safe Speed

I wouldn't if I were you. See this:

http://www.safespeed.org.uk/speedo.html

and this:

http://www.safespeed.org.uk/againstcameras.html

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

The cars stopped down my street, as it turned from a short cut to an inconvenience.

The improvement was amazing, complete silence from all day noise.

In the past the street (residential) was like a drag strip. Now cars can hardly reach 5mph between bumps. Seeing them coming helps crossing the road.

I sold up with a large profit, allthough I hadnt campaigned for the bumps I will in future. My new place is on a country road, hence cant do bumps, but I will be trying for cameras, just to lessen the trafic down it.