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I absolutely agree with this - my local ROSPA group has a policy of assigning Observers with silver passes to people who have no intention of taking the test, and I imagine the IAM might be able to do something similar - perhaps assigning junior observers? IMO there should be a lot more publicity about this sort of thing, otherwise the overwhelming majority of rubbish drivers will never hear about it, which is a crying shame...

Something I was quite surprised at (and a little shocked) is the comment by one poster that thier local IAM group rotated observers, Chelmsford Group assign one observer to each associate the only time another observer comes along is illness or for the mock test. This is mainly done for consistantcy and so the observer/associate can build a rapport.

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A lot of groups do rotate Observers including my own in Stockport (I'm not an active member).

I suppose there may be an advantage in bringing different perspectives, but as others have said there is a risk of inconsistent advice.

I see there is an alternative version of this thread on the advanced driving forum here:

http://www.advanced-driving.co.uk/bb/vi ... .php?t=194

Just off to have a read...

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People who take advanced training are very much self-selecting in being already at the more responsible end of the spectrum. However, a fair proportion of associates do take it up for confidence-building reasons, for example if someone has just been doing short commuting trips and has taken on a new job that involves substantial business driving.

There is more of a cross-section than you might imagine.

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I was visiting a supplier my company does business with this week and they kindly picked me up from the airport and dropped me back off.

My observations:
The company director who picked me up was not a good driver. His windscreen was filthy and no amount of screen wash was going to help - visibility was severely reduced. He didn't seem particularly bothered with lane discipline, often bumping over catseyes where the motorway changed course. When merging onto the motorway he crossed over the chevronned area, even though traffic was light and he wouldn't have had any trouble merging further on. He, of course, drove far too close to the vehicle in front and also used his mobile hand-held even though his top of the range car was fitted with an integrated in-car system.

Once our business was completed chat got around to bikes and cars. He mentioned that his 18 year old son wrote off a car within a week of getting his licence. (wonder where he got those driving skills from?) Three weeks later he has just purchased a replacement vehicle for him and hopes his son doesn't wreck that one too, or he won't be getting another one. I suggested that it would be a good idea for him to contact the IAM and get his son to become a member. The way I explained it was that, now he had passed his test, the IAM would teach him how to drive, not just how to pass the test.

I really hope that both father and son contact their local IAM group. Maybe they'll both learn something?

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It sound to me as if you got "Mr IAM it" - " und I am looking for anything und everything wrong about your style"


Some like to see pull/push steer all the time - but driving - real driving require the mix accoding to situation you are finding yourself in. Think one of the gang had same chat on another forum. (He ist another of the family - posts not very often as "Stray Cat!"

I would look at points raised und just see if consciously und then relaxing int this new habit improve thing for you.

IAM ist about helping to develop und enhance existing skills - but not reinforcing a bad habit which has become part of style und which could at wrong type of co-incidences cause a problem.

Und COAST? Ist good system to base on

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All quite fair comments, thank you Vrenchen.

Yes I like your COAST master plan, and I always seem to have plenty of S and T, so that seems to be working well. It's a good job something is!

Best wishes all,
Dave.