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i was at both of the above places today but both cameras have a new camera behind them about 3 foot taller than a gatso about 1/3rd the size and they looked white in colour, any ideas what these are?

have a look on www.speedcam.co.uk - look under gatso and then other types - most types are on there

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FOUND IT http://www.speedcam.co.uk/index2.htm

click on gatso and other types its the first one, its called a truvelo

and just like in the top picture it still has its film around the camera, first time i seen these in london I guess this is going to be the start of it

Truvelos aren't much higher than Gatsos. In fact they look lower to me.
I don't trust most sites which tell you about the different types of cameras too much, they can get it wrong!

Truvelo: (they are also a weapons manufacturer, in South Africa.)
http://www.truvelouk.com/

RedSpeed:
http://www.redspeed-int.com/en/products_redspeed.htm

Could it be one of them? The photo on there is a very short pole but really they are very tall things (to stop people from burning them down as easily). The pole is usually grey.

The photo on the speedcam site with (pink?) plastic bag around the top is a Monitron (now RedSpeed) Speedcurb (now RedSpeed?!) which is basically the same as a RedSpeed, although as the name suggests they can be used as a red light camera too.

These use road sensors to detect speed and/or red light offences. I don't know how vulnerable to attack the road sensors are. They have a digital camera and send the photos back to base electronically.

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i think it looked like a truvelo as it was about only 33% of the size of gatso and it was a few feet higher as well

All the Truvelos i've seen are similar in height and camera size to a Gatso - real give away for a truvello is name on post + 3 lines very close together, ON ROAD JUST BEFORE CAMERA. - if higher and substantially smaller - possibly not a truvello.

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

it does look like a red speed except the pole was plain grey, oh well thanks for the info

I think there is some confusion here, the descriptions of the cameras in questions are of a RedSpeed RedSpeed (aka Monitron SpeedCurb/RedGuard).
These are tall and thin and have the camera right on top.

Truvelos and Gatsos are pretty similar in size and have the camera "hanging off" the pole so it can be lowered.

There are some photos on both of the links I provided, but the RedSpeed one is in real life much much taller than in the photo.

RedSpeed/Monitron SpeedCurb: (best picture I could find!)


Truvelo:


Gatso: (rear view)


Not to scale

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Andrew.

its a monitron sorry i just went back to website and saw it, dunno where how i got confused.
oh well looks like these are going to be all over london very soon now

As i said - most of the truvellos thay i have seen have the name ( as this onee has ) on the post.

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
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Between Mitcham Cricket Green and the Savacentre Colliers Wood (Church Road) and next to Figges Marsh (Tooting to Mitcham) (A217).

They are clearly more vandal proof being so high up (approx lamp post height).

However they are smaller and harder to see and out of the normal line of view. It seems to me that they will further distract drivers and hence inevitably increase accidents.

They will probably be able to hide this from the public by their usual crooked use of statistics that fortunately for them (due to the useless education system) the general public will never see.

next to figgs marsh i havent seen that one, is it going north or south bound?

I only went down there once and noticed it by the road markings. There could easily be one the other way.

There is one each way on Church Road

there is one facing south inbetween gorringe park avenue and the bus stop,
i have also noticed one in clapham going south and also one at wimbledon park heading east towards the a3 they are becoming every where

Latest info is <a href="http://www.speedcam.co.uk/index2.htm">here</a>. They are Monitrons. Now drivers will be looking at the sky instead of the road. Great.

Ok, so it appears that Monitron and RedSpeed are two names (or trading names?) for the same company.




They make three devices, the SpeedCurb (speed camera), RedGuard (red light camera) and RedSpeed (both).

Here is some info about the new cameras in London:
RedSpeed to Reduce Road Casualties in London
More prossecutions = more lives saved, obviously.

Also they are (were) 'saving lives' by having cameras on motorway roadworks hidden in the trees:
RedSpeed Enforce Speed Restrictions at M6 Roadworks - hey, there's a letter by Callaghan!

http://www.speedcam.co.uk/london.htm
Does the double-headed camera pole have type approval?
Isn't it interesting how they dug an ugly trench right around the current gatso on Lea Bridge Road, Leyton, obviously they didn't think it was safe to have the road without a camera even for a few days?!

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Andrew.

the camera about 10 minutes from lea bridge road (near ikea edmonton) has vanished, the old gatso is still there
the double headed one in morden looks like a monster from dr who to me, hehe

that quote says they will be making 10 for london, i know of 14 put up in just 18 days

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Andrew.

i came through london a different way this morning and saw three new sites ready for speed cameras ( i guess they are for the monitron) i also saw three monitrons on the way as well

You may want to check again next time you're passing that way, there's a Redspeed on Seven Sisters Road (near Finsbury Park station) which was planted next to an old gatso about 3-4 weeks ago, then uprooted at some point over the next week or two later, and has now been replanted in the same spot... Looks as if it's gone, or is about to go, live - bubble-wrap has gone from the post and the road markings have been redone.