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It is still illegal to p[ark a car with headlamps balzing - even on dips becaus it dazzles and can confiuse others.

Nothing wrong with my eyesight - - had a checkup the other day - still do not need glasses - fit eyeballs for my age - he ven takes a photo of my eyeball and explains how this reflects my general health...


But it still dazzles and you may be twenty feet away - try crawling toward this light - I think you may find you find yourself seeing flaoting bobs of red and blue and yellow very quickly!




We are talking DEIPPED and if you ride or drive ion daytlight on MAINS in the Scandinavian countries where this rule applies - you will get "done foir antisocial behaviour"

Also - there is a big difference between the sublte speed creep up on a camber or gradient or polished road surface and a deliberate blat - and the majority of those copped by camera were the blippers and noit the blatters... in fact these "blatters" are well capable of driving perfectly past all speed cams...as depicted on an episode of "Traffic Cops".

Here? We tend to bask like sharks and we focus intensely on the blatting dangerous and use discretion on the blips

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Absolutely. I have never ridden an old bike (I mean why would you want to?) but I think bikes have moved further than cars.

While we are comparing its worth mentioning most car drivers have no idea what a modern bike can do. One of the scariest moments I have had is a quick pull away at a roundabout and the traffic from the next road all pulls out in front of you. My slowest bike does 0-60 in just under 4 seconds, my quickest in just under 3 and none are considered quick!

The result of this is I can use this performance at junctions when a car would not be able to cross.



I have a funny feeling you are talking about goldwings!!



I wish the only times I had been on the hard shoulder was failed lights. Unfortunately both times have been rear tire blow outs. Exciting when you have four tires, bit more a challenge when you only have two! But yes sat on my bum on the embankment watching the tailgaters go by....




FYI I do not think this is a positive fashion statement! I dont bother with the leggings but may do when my current gortex dies. The best thing about a waterproof hi vi on top means you can be waterproof and wear leather underneath. I have a gortex but I doubt its as good as leather in a get off.



Touch wood but I have not been pulled in many years, I reckon its cuz I am so fast I even out run the helicopter

COAST? Should I know about that seeing as I started by observer training this AM?

I’m surprised no-one has raised the other complications which come with daytime use of headlights

Conventional headlight bulbs have a short life, typically a few hundred hours. With everyone driving on dipped beam, statistically there will be a lot more bulbs blowing and people driving around at night with one headlight (or possibly none). This is infinitely more dangerous than having no headlights during the day.

So once again the law of unintended consequences kicks in, possibly causing more accidents and deaths than before.

They also use a significant amount of energy and are expensive to replace. Here's a back-of-envelope calculation (a lot of guesswork but the figures give a vague indication of the sums involved):

Assuming 10 million cars will get through an extra pair of headlight bulbs each year, at £24 a pair, it will cost motorists £240million.

Assuming it costs 20p per KwHr (approx 3 times domestic rate, given petrol duty) to generate the electricity needed to power two headlights and side-lights on these cars, each travelling 400 daylight hours per year, motorists will pay an extra £104 million in fuel.

So the exercise will cost over a third of a billion pounds per year. For what?

Do we really need more laws, more prosecutions and more fines to support what will bring at best a marginal improvement in road safety?

And for all you bikers who have posted here, only this afternoon I recoiled at an oncoming motorbike headlight to the extent I had to flash him – something I really don’t like doing.

Surely the answer is for car manufacturers to incorporate LED arrays into cars, phasing in the perfectly sensible quest for higher visibility without the dazzle, cost and persecution of law-abiding motorists.

Maybe car lights are different from bikes but I have got 30,000 miles out the GSF with the headlight on, 22,000 out of the GSX600 and 5500 out of the triumph. My previous GSF had done over 50,000 when I sold it on its origional headlight but was only on when I turned it on (which was 95% + of the time)

I'm sorry to be flippant, but when I saw the thread title I couldn't resist:

I want Radio 4 Headlights !!!

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One had an accident from a driving pulling out of a side road. My friend had no light on (was coming back from the garage, the mechanics often turn them off.)

Other than that lots of reports of close shaves leading to running with the light on afterwards.



Its SMIDSYBYDBL that is the concern really. (Because You Didnt Bloody Look).



No I do not, only the anecdotal evidence from riding a lot and from others who ride. FWIW one of my friends was very anti head light and made some interesting points about having no light when the sun is low and behind. By moving the bike you can make the sun 'flash' from behind you as your shadow crosses cars mirrors. Quite a clever idea I thought. And in one sentance made me think more than this entire thread.

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I might have made the sample self selecting by explaining why I asked the question.



Because car drivers still have faulty eyes? Maybe their eyes aren't plugged into their brain? More likely though they see driving as a chore and anything else they can do (read a book, do the crossword, text their mates, check their email, do their hair, pick their nose (i was going to put everything I had seen stupid drivers do but I have better things to do!)) saves their time. And lets face it a modern saloon or, worse, a 4x4 can kill thousands of bikers and only recieve superficial damage.



Thats a fair point, think of it as the sledgehammer approach. "Sometimes you just need to punch through"



I see it like a hi vi. If you see a lot of hi vi and or a lot of lights then there are a lot of hazards.

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Ok then, whats the answer? Do I get to wear my hi vi on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays and you get to wear yours on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays? Pistols at dawn for Sundays?

Do we go down the route of some sort of lowest common denomiator where because most idiots in cars dont drive and dont look and get hivi blinded we ban hivi? This is sinking fast; I thought we had hit rock bottom a few pages ago with the mindless insults.......

Seriously though; if people do get hi vi blind then they need some sort of training. Am I the only person who thinks more hivi == more danger?

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I am assuming there is clear evidence to back up such a statement? linky?



Are you emplying that I need more training because I always wear hivi?

When you see a bunch of people wearing hivi you dont think there might be some sort of hazard?

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I am amazed your perception is so acute you can judge my riding abilities from my choice of atire. The conversation between you and I is clearly going nowhere, I am taking no further part in discussing this with you.

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