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Q. Are you a stupid fascist with limited reading skills or are you just a retard?

It was Hertford magistrates who fined the scrote who attacked my car £350 when it cost almost double that to get it mended.

When the insurance company approached the court to get his details so they could start a civil claim, they responded that he had already been tried (pled guilty in the end) and thus they would not give out his details.

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COAST Not just somewhere to keep a beach.

A young loner on a crusade to champion the cause of the innocent, the helpless, the powerless, in a world of criminals who operate above the law.

It's rediculous. Especially that pathetic data protection nonsense thrown in as well Handy.......

I must admit that the thought had crossed my mind to just "not bother" with insurance and chance it. When I was a bit younger I'd only use my insurance if I wrote off a space shuttle and even then I'd be reluctant, so it's just a horrendous expense that has no use to someone young.

Couple that to minimal fines as has been shown above and there's a serious incentive to dodge the insurance and chance it.

In the above instance I think the guy should get an appropriate sentence of community service. There's no point fining people like him - he's probably got no money anyway, as many people don't. You could fine him £7000 but if he doesn't have £7000 then whats the point? May as well fine him £1,000,000. You could confiscate the van, but he'd pick up another one a couple of days later.

I think that in cases like above then the punishment should be an infringement on his time, rather than his (probably empty) pocket.

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Jail

I bet that he is already driving around again - this is no disincentive at all, and with no licence and no insurance it is a fair bet to say that he will be driving an unregistered vehicle (if he has any sense he would get a cloned plate to avoid ANPR).

The amazing thing is that he was stopped at all - his standard of driving must be awful, unless the Police have stopped him so many times before that they recognise him and pull him in automatically.

While community service is a logical thing to do, there is the problem of him effectively taking away the work that somebody else would be employed to do.

Personally I would expect a suspended sentence for a first time knowingly driving without insurance offence, with the sentence to be carried out if they are ever caught doing it again, and a doubling for any future offences. So 3 months inside for second offence, 6 months for third, 1 year for fourth, etc. To allow him to do it 6 times and to be disqualified from driving twice in the 3 years that he can have had his licence is obscene, and shows that the penalties are truly ineffective.

The only trouble with that option is that I as a tax payer then have to pay for him. I don't want to pay for anything that doesn't benefit me.

Call me selfish.

There are however, according to local authorities around the country, plenty of vacancies for jobs that typical British people refuse to do. Consequently, many immigrants are welcome to undertake these roles.

Without getting into a racial debate, if we have enough jobs needing done to employ immigrants, surely there's enough crappy work to be done to use up some chain gang labour? There's sure as hell enough stinking public toilets and potholes in roads to keep scrotes busy for a few years.

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Imprisonment costs US even more - just empty the contents of his house. or if he owns it, drop a compusary purchase order on it. Draconian? Unfair on the other household members? Sod 'em. If you, me or anybody else has to deprive ourselves & our families to compensate their utter lack of regard by paying for repairs, theft or injury, why not take anything they have up to the value required and see how that feels.

"Oh, but then they'll start stealing & robbing". Then take away their kids, their clothes and impose forced labour fixing the potholes in the effing roads, living / chained to a tin hut at night with free lobotomies to any takers. "Hey Tony!, you want a dictatorship, start with the scum. Treat them like the malignant, fetted dirt they are. Then maybe the 'rest of us' will respect you enough to not bring up the 8k you wife spent on haircuts"

Or on the other had we could look at why by law we have to have a product supplied by a commercial organisation that’s sole purpose in life is to make money for its shareholders.

Its not like I have to have an ipod to walk down the road but I do need insurance to drive.


No what is needed is a real change. At the moment we all (or at least should) pay “Road Tax” what I would propose is an increase in the cost of road tax to supply every vehicle on the roads of the UK with 3rd party liability cover. Then if some one wants theft cover of more comprehensive insurance then they can go to the private sector to get it rather than having to do so by law as is the case now.

This is one act would go a long long way would go to stop the ever growing plague of none insured/registers or MOTed cars on the roads today.

Sadly I just don’t see it happening here in the UK as the insurance companies have a huge amount of are own cash to use lobbying against any such move.

And this government wonder why vigilante groups could form ??

It's a tribute to the British way of life that they haven't yet.Now in some parts of my town various groups of foreign extract have resorted to policing their streets because of the increase in vehicle crime - to stop this the police have had to spend more time in this area - is this the way forward, or just restricted to persons not born in the UK(And questions are being raised about the membership of the BNP)

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on