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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 13:44 
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My sister raised this in an e-mail to me.

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Hi Ted

Thought this might be worthy of debate in that forum you chat along in. Not much point my registering as there's already three of you there to my knowledge!


Well - Friday coming home from work proved to be a right nightmare.

1. Along a road with parked cars on one side. A nice polite gent in an Audi flashes to let me through as I'm already trundling down the road and there is not enough room. So he pulls in to give me space.

Some dopey woman overtakes him and continues up the road - apparently blind to the fact that parked cars on one side of the road, a Vauxhall travelling towards her and a huge Merc are not going to be able to pass at all.

She clearly expected me to reverse a good half mile as well. I ended up having to ask the pedestrians to stop and allow me to run my nearside wheels over the pavement so that I could get by as this was safer than a long reverse with a car approaching from behind. He also had to run over the pavement to make room for this rude woman driver.

The pedestrians and the Audi driver all agreed they had never seen such a display of bad manners. She did have a child in the front seat as well and a "baby on board" chav sticker in the rear window. We watched her accelerate hard to the hump back bridge and force a car entering to reverse back for her.

2. Mini roundabout. Chap drives over without even stopping - nearly hits a cyclist.

3. Woman on 4x4 overtakes a cyclist but has no regard whatoever for oncoming cars who happened to be almost level There was no indication. I think she should have held back. Arguably she did give the cyclist room - but this was a 30 mph road and she passed him at 40 mph - and then slammed on her brakes at the Gatso just after this overtake.

4. Cyclist (no helmet/no lycra) pedals up to a pelican on green for him. I'm waiting for the green man. Young man crosses the road. Car slows down - but the cyclist does not and collides with the man. Both parties highly abusive to each other. I am sad to say that as they were both bigger than me - I just watched with an open mouth in shock and the cyclist thumped the man and kicked the car which had stopped and then rode into the shopping mall where there is a big sign saying bikes are not allowed.

This was one hot evening and I do wonder if the hot weather made people behave even more like numpties.

I would be interested to know what those other people on the site think - as I already more than know your opinions!


By the way - have some photos of a hidden Gatso in Glazebury and my Near Miss scene - but I think I must have done something when I edited with an explanatory comment within the photos - as I cannot get them to e-mail out - keep getting a connection error and don't know why since the Evening News scan went through OK. There are some tell-tale tyrre marks though so I think this area - Warburton Lane - Dunham Massey area and Dunham Road junction with Warburton Road is a bit of a danger spot.


I wonder if she has a point? :scratchchin: Are we more short tempered in hot weather and prone to daft risks and silly mistakes in the heat - or is the sun causing some observation errors?

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I think the sun brings all the dozy twats out. Last week I followd a silver P reg. Volvo through Manningtree. The idiot female driving was making sure that she stuck to the speed limit - regradless of what hazards appeared. She nearly took the mirror off a car because she failed to give way to an oncoming vehicle that had no room to move out of her way. It got worse though. As we approched a zebra crossing I could see an old lady starting to cross. The silly cow in the Volvo didn't and carried straight on, missing the old lady by no more than six inches. It's bloody frightening to think that people can get away with this standard of driving - just as long as they stick to the speed limits.


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One annoying side effect of warm weather is car alarms being triggered by people leaving car windows/sunroofs open. My neighbour's went off at 23.40 the other night.

The most likely reason for the apparent worsening of standards in the summer is that non-regular drivers are on the roads for their holidays. Don't even think about the standards of caravan towing!

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I do think that some people are badly affected by humidity, and make it worse by no ventilating the car enough. I agree that you do see the "twice a year caravan towers" AS WELL.

On the up side, nice weather brings out the classic car drivers - who are usually exemplars of good driving and courtesy.


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I could be wrong but I believe there is reseach evidence proving a link between warmer weather and civil unrest (riots, demonstrations etc...), so it makes sense that the patience of people (singular) can be affected by the warmer weather too.

If I remember correctly I think the research even picked out a specific temperature range something like 24 - 30 degrees C. Lower than this and people can cope quite well, higher and it gets too hot to start throwing moltovs around!

I've just reread what I've written, it really is very vague! Apologies.


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There is also the distraction of all the young women wearing really skimpy clothes... :shock:


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Rewolf wrote:
There is also the distraction of all the young women wearing really skimpy clothes... :shock:
Where??? :hehe:

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Well, you wouldn't be distracted if you saw me in skimpy clothes... or you might, looking for the bucket... :lol:

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I totaly agree!
Air con has cured me from being an irritable driver.
I can forgive numpties, and wait patiently in a comfortable air con car.
(or the TR4 with the roof down)

the government should waive vat on cars fitted with air con rather than waste money putting in speed cameras... It would save more lives.

:idea: Has any on ever done statistcal research into the saftey effect of air con???
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Air con certainly helps me -esp. on a long motorway drive in the sun, helps me from getting tired and dehydrated so quickly.


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ahhh The joys of air con

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BottyBurp wrote:
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There is also the distraction of all the young women wearing really skimpy clothes... :shock:
Where??? :hehe:



People did slow down when they say me in me fishnet tights .. in me lycra skort on my bike! :hehe:

I was wheeling it up a big steep hill. I do not do steep yet! :lol: I just ran out of puff halfway up. Mad Doc und all the kids were well ahead. :roll:

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:yesyes: air con does help.

und Peyote - ist not at all vague Liebchen. Too much heat - und our hot weather ist more humid und thus less comfortable than in the Med - und like the song

"Mad Dogs und Englishmen go out in the Mid Day sun" :oops:

They do not have long leisurely lunch followed by siesta und return to work when cooler in evening und earliest morning to get in the hours.

I think perhaps the work through lunch at office desks - not taking in any fresh air, short walks, leg stretch und the long hours culture also not help - especially when we start to move into the very warm weather spells.

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I think perhaps the work through lunch at office desks - not taking in any fresh air, short walks, leg stretch und the long hours culture also not help - especially when we start to move into the very warm weather spells.


I live close enough to the office, which helps, but I tend to make a point of leaving the office building for lunch and usually go home, too many hours in front of the pc otherwise.


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Anton a few years back the AA did a list of top ten safety devices in cars, the list did include air con as it helped reduce driver fatigue and helped keep drivers fresh and alert.

Not sure if they did any reseach or it was a wet thumb in the air approach and guesstemate.

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Not sure if they did any reseach or it was a wet thumb in the air approach and guesstemate.


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Very much so Paul, there are several degrees of research:

1. The wet thumb in the air approach and guesstemate approach also known as WAG - Wild Arse Guess.

2. The SWAG - Scientific Wild Arse Guess, so called as it is conducted by a person who has a degree or letters after thier name, they may evn have some kowledge of the subject they are 'researching'.

3. 'Proper' Research.

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