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Now speed camera sites will stay secret

SPEEDING drivers will no longer be able to dodge mobile cameras because details of where they will be stationed are to be kept a secret.

Until now motorists have been able to find out in advance where speed checks will be carried out each day through the Worcester News or local radio stations.

But people use the information to speed elsewhere, says the West Mercia Safety Camera Partnership, which has now stopped the practice.

Full story at http://www.thisisworcester.co.uk/worces ... TEST5.html

it has never been stated where and what time the cameras are going to be on site, only that a camera will / may visit that particular area

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Yes of course we all agree

One day 'camera operator', you will realise the iniquity of what you and your ilk are doing, but clearly that time has not yet come.

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Good manners maketh a good motorist

One day, CO , you will be standing in line in the Joke shop ( sorry it's also known as the Jobcentre) and some one in authority wil ask you for your last job -" Camera Operative " you say , as 50,0000 unemployed drivers dig a hole and bury you, without a marker.

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

Not like the open approach here in Cumbria then...

When it says highly liveried, you have to take that with a pinch of salt...
because it means b**ger all when they're hiding in bushes like this!

And the reason they are here?

Yeah! Right!
Drivers taken ill at the wheel, and ending up in trouble, despite being below the posted speed limit.
No WONDER they did'nt want the local paper to find out the causes of accidents which led to the placing of cameras, and denied their FOI request!
If that had gotten to the public, a lot more people would have realised that a load of hypocritical, dishonest, lying charlatans were taxing drivers at this location, and trying to pass it off as "SAFETY", while drivers are having accidents frequently just northwest of here - including a fatality at the begining of this year.
And their intelligence led approach?

You could be forgiven for thinking it is safe to REVERSE everywhere!!

A "safety" partnership member spent over £2,000 on this sign

(and 16 others just like it!), yet failed to renew this one which had been demolished several months before in an earlier accident......

until a couple of days AFTER a fatal accident there! An accident prevention technique known as "Covering your own ar*e"!
They have also failed to renew this stretch of damaged Armco, months after a near fatal accident - despite my reminding them, and sending a grid reference in case they had forgotten!

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Time to take responsibility for our actions.. and don't be afraid of speaking out!

maybe one day i will fly away but IMO thattime is in a very long time

ernest marsh

you must really look into what can or cannot be purchased under the SCP guidelines, replacing of armco does not, roadside signs, sorry cannot read the blue sign, the camera va hidden in thetress at Ings has been covered before

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That blue sign is a hazard in itself. Look how much of the view it obscures. Damn stupid in my opinion.

Well, 'Camera Operator', when you and others like you have fined every citizen in the land who has a driving licence for what are very minor offences, (12 million so far and counting), without any visible result, what is the next move, then ?

I think we need to note that the partnerships only collect cash from minor offences, anything entering the danger zone is a summons at the courts, and NO CASH for them. This latter is a very minor percentage, (presumably to a sigh of relief from the partnerships as if it was larger their cash flow would be far less).

Does 'Camera Operator' agree with every other law being introduced by this wicked and perverted government ? ID cards, heavy fines for every conceivable minor offence like dropping a crisp in the street etc. Would he agree if the Government enforced the installation of surveillance cameras in every room of every house in the land, for instance ? When does oppression start in his view ? Indeed does he think there should be ANY LIMITS AT ALL on what the State can impose on its citizens.

Come on, lets have an answer !!

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actualy i agree 100% with paying a £ a litre of petrol, £ 5 + for a packet of fags, paying for a crap BBC TV service,

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I am aware of what the SCP's can and cannot pay for.
I said a partnership MEMBER. In this instance, the Highways Authority. They plainly have no regard for proper road safety measures, and yet put their name to a scheme to persecute motorists for no good reason.

The speed limit at Ings was not determined by any sort of road safety expert, or criteria, other than the council agreed to conceed to a demand by a handful of local residents for a speed limit "...to show that they listened to public concerns"
So seven men who meet in a pub call for a limit, based on accidents - most of which did not happen in their village and certainly did not involve speeding; and out of the goodness of their hearts, the council AT GREAT EXPENSE re-engineer the road (three lane to protected lanes and solid median) AND impose a pointless 40 mph limit at one of the most lucrative sites, used by thousands of tourist in season.
Forgive me for being cynical, but they have NEVER shown local concern so much attention anywhere else in Cumbria.

The tissue of falsehoods and misinformation and misrepresentation of statistics at this site is so widespread, that the SCP refuse to reveal in an FOI request from the local paper, the causes of accidents used to trigger the siting of cameras! The cameras are derided by local police officers - please dont think this is a case of misplaced angst and a desire to career along the road at breakneck speeds on my part!

Police officers have revealed snippets to me such as the camera van operator who collided with a police vehicle in the car park at Police HQ in Penrith, because they despise the camera operators methods, in spite of their superior's supposed support! Some feel they would be penalised for revealing their concerns - others are quite open in their criticism! But none of us employ the services of a publicity officer whose sole job is to jump on any public display of hostility, with a bunch of pseudo statistics produced by his fellow statistician, producing contradictory crap like the following, lifted from the Cumbria Safety Camera Partnership's website:


The BLUE sign in my picture is just one of 17 installed at a cost of £36,000 by the Cumbria Casualty Reduction Partnership, which states how many collisions have occured on the following stretch of road. This one was out of date within days of it being erected, following a fatality on the A591 at Bannerigg in February. Another fatality occured last month - maybe they didn't read the sign... but I am puzzled as to how such signs are supposed to make a difference?
Perhaps you could explain Cam.Op, is it supposed to inspire a flash of common sense, and trigger a consious decision NOT to have the accident one was planning on having today or tomorrow, because it makes the SCP's figures look bad?
At least the public might feel reassured that at £36,000 their interests ARE being looked after? Not me!! I have yet to discover ANYONE who thinks they will do any good, and ALL are incredulous at the waste of £36,000 !!

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Time to take responsibility for our actions.. and don't be afraid of speaking out!

And that is precisely the problem with you bunch of parasites. If it was a Road Safety Partnership instead of a Camera Partnership and the money was actually used to fund proper road safety schemes we might start seeing some reduction in the numbers of crashes. The current obsession with reducing speed is doing nothing to reduce the number of crashes and it's quite simple - if you don't crash then you will not be killed or injured in a crash.

Dont worry about it - the worst that can happen is that you might miss a hazard, and somebody might get killed or injured!
The road ahead changes to a short stretch of dual carriageway. There is always a mad rush to start passing, so that you can get to Windermere thirty seconds before the driver you passed! The blue sign just makes it more interesting!

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Time to take responsibility for our actions.. and don't be afraid of speaking out!