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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 23:56 
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speed bumps?, they are an obstruction of the Public Highway, so how do they get away with them?, it is actually an arrestable offence to cause such an obstruction so just how do they get away with it?, its the same as me going out and putting a 12" diameter steel pipe across the Road aint it?, is it not the "Queens" Highway after all and She acts on "our" behalf (as Her subjects), so what's going on?

its okay I have a cob on after having my suspension wrecked by such a hump at the bottom of our road it's at least 24" high! and it wrecked my exhaust (3 cats £1200) and anti roll bar too, (thinking of leveling it right now with a spade) lol


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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 02:30 
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The council have permission to put them there. Under certain conditions:

The Highways (Road Humps) Regulations 1996
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Nature, dimensions and location of road humps
4.—(1) Subject to regulation 7, no road hump shall be constructed or maintained in a highway unless—
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(c) the highest point on it is not less than 25 millimetres nor more than 100 millimetres higher than an imaginary line parallel to the centre line of that carriageway connecting the surface of that carriageway on one side of the road hump to the surface of that carriageway on the other side of the road hump and passing vertically below that point; and

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If they are >100mm higher than the surrounding road then they are illegal. They then must be removed and the council should be sent your repair bills. ;)

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So how exactly do you measure such a beast.

knock up a peice of wood [ shape to straddle the hump? and what about those raised table junctions. you might be able to measure them with a clear hose pipe with colured water and a ruler at each end. the water will level out and give you a reading

a....................b...........................c
_____/----------------------------\______


the hose should be read at A&B and A&C
caution-A will be different on the two readings
so if the water read:
A1=130mm B1=330mm... therefore b is 200mm higher than a
second reading
A2=125mm C2=145mm shows that c is 20mm higher than a
take half of this away from b and you have the hight of the table
200mm-10mm=190mm


It could be fun, If you find some bad ones invite your local tv station along.

Also send a letter to the legal department of the council asking them to stop obstructing the highway requesting that they do so within 28 days.

Mind you, you might upset them and find a speed bump installed out side your house!!!!

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Does anyone else have them where the centre is legal, but due to camber of the road, the outer edges are several centimetres higher?

My last MOT included a bill for front suspension - and I like to think I treat my vehicle respectfully. I also have back problems, which is agravated by certain humps (not on my estate, but on Ian H's in Kendal!!) because of their shape.
Some drivers with company cars couldn't care less, and risk a suspension failure elsewhere, causing at best a hold up, or possible a serious accident.
My wife has had two front springs FRACTURE, on two separate vehicles, and one front spring condemned at MOT.
One broken spring speared the inner side wall of the tyre!! :x

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Ernest Marsh wrote:
Does anyone else have them where the centre is legal, but due to camber of the road, the outer edges are several centimetres higher?


Yes, this is exactly what happened to me, resulting in exhaust damage. I wrote and complained, informed them the humps were illegal and should be removed, and that I wanted my bill paid.

Their reply is that they conducted a report into the hump, and it is 100mm. I asked to see the report. What they had done was find some point on it that was 100mm, rather than measure the highest point.

Part of their defence was also that they had conducted a safety assessment on the humps. I asked to see this. The things they had considered included water drainage, damage to electrical cables by digging etc. They never considered damage to traffic using the road.


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100mm is about 4" right?(I work in Imperial), the hump in question is a raised Zebra crossing and at the very least 8" (200mm high) above the Road surface :o


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anton wrote:
So how exactly do you measure such a beast.

Flat piece of wood, spirit level, tape measure?
Actually, if the road isn't level you'd need a protractor too.

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100mm is about 4" right?(I work in Imperial), the hump in question is a raised Zebra crossing and at the very least 8" (200mm high) above the Road surface


I trust then you will be writing to the council (or the police?) about this illegal erection. :lol:

If you have an old vehicle you could drive over said hump at the speed limit a few times until it breaks, then get council to pay the repair bill...

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We have the ultra high zebra crossings here too. there is no way they are under 100mm. When you go over them at the posted 30 limit it is like you are Knight Rider!

I've written to my local council about the bumps, they wrote back saying they were overwhelmed by people asking for MORE bumps.

See this topic...

http://www.safespeed.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7165


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cortinadave wrote:
We have the ultra high zebra crossings here too. there is no way they are under 100mm. When you go over them at the posted 30 limit it is like you are Knight Rider!

I've written to my local council about the bumps, they wrote back saying they were overwhelmed by people asking for MORE bumps.

If they are over 100mm then they are illegal and must be removed!
Maybe you should contact your local police next to remove the illegal/unlawful, dangerous obstrucations?

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I find it impossible to believe that the pillow is 8" tall. That is almost as big as a wheel on a mini (10" - or used to be). A standard kerb stone is only 3" I think.


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All you need to check the height is a length of 3x2 timber with a 4 inch (100mm) block attached at each end, and when you place it over the hump, if it rocks, it's illegal/outside the guidelines.
It's possible that the edges will be higher if the thing is level fron side to side, since road camber makes the tarmac dip away.

Watch out for traffic while you are measuring! :idea:

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