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http://www.2pass.co.uk/theorytest.php?t=1

You might take issue with the odd one or two answers (or the questions) but in general, this is a useful tool for those learning to drive!

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13) A flashing motorway sign reads 'FOG' on a apparently clear road. What does this tell you?
A - Someone has forgot to turn the sign off
B - The sign has a fault
C - Turn your high intensity fog lights on
D - There is fog up ahead

A is a distinct possibility!!

You get a different set of questions or order each time.

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Ernest I would go for A or B, have yet to see fog when the signs say fog !

As for passing the test, one of the tests that I failed I had been marked down for block changing gears !!

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I did the test twice...
I got one question wrong the first time. (and that was a stopping distance)
Then I tried a road signs test and got two wrong!
I have never worked out how 'stopping' and 'waiting' are defined. IMHO 'stopping' is when you 'stop'. Final. End. Stopped. 'waiting' is when you wait for a bit then continue. It seems that I have that around the wrong way...?!
The other one I got wrong was "Tanks crossing" I selected "Tanks in road" because that's what it means around Bovington...

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Andrew.

Of course this is just the theory test, there's also the hazard perception test that goes along with this.

Good for brushing up on knowledge though.

Some of theory test questions are just plain odd, and one or two I would say are very innapropriate.

For example, I remember there is one where you have to say that cars ruin the environment by damaging buildings! Do they mean acid rain? Maybe that was a problem for cars in 1983 but not any more.

Here's an example of a question which is technically true, but odd and pointless:



Obviously the "answer on the card" is B - Pedestrians.

But what is the point in testing this? On a country road there could be a brick wall round the next corner for all the driver knows. It's supposed to be about safe driving, not The Weakest Link. If I am on a country road and do in fact spot a tractor coming towards me (in defiance of the test), do I carry on and ignore it because it can't exist? How does learning this information help me?

Well Zamzara that's the DSA for you. There's quite a few alternatives that "DSA" can stand for and I'm not listing them!

Which is a complete load of pap. I know at least one person who failed it for spotting hazards TOO EARLY!

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Err it's a country road? They will all be on your side! Or, coming torawds you down the middle. Pedestrians will be either side or in the middle. What an odd question...

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Andrew.

After a trip out yesterday which took me on several "country roads" I would have to list (in no particular order):
Sheep, Tourists brandishing cameras, A quad bike and rider, three assorted dogs, and a tractor mowing the verge, to ensure a good view of the road ahead.
Actually I made that last one up - nobody has mowed any verges here yet, and at Plumgarths "roundabout" a view of any traffic coming from the right requires you exit the vehicle and stand on tiptoe, or pull so far forward, drivers coming form the right hoot their horns and flash their lights at you while casting doubts on your education and parentage!!!

The Highways Authority are partners in the Cumbria Safety Camera Parnership - but are slacking in their responsibility for any type of safety measures!

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I agree. Afriend of mine failed her motorbike hazard perceptin for hitting the button when she saw a car pulling off the pumps at a roadside petrol station. OK, maybe it's not an immediate hazard but it's certainly something a road user, biker or otherwise, should spot and file away in the "developing potential hazard" part of their brain.

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We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the kerb.

True .. you can hit the button early as you see the potential hazard develop. We tested the hazard perception on some trainee and they all hit the button too early

The Mad Cats bought yet another hazard perception "toy" for their twins. Should leave them to explain how the twins manipulated it. The twins apparently worked out years ago when to hit the button. After "perceiving the hazard - they count one - two three - click and get a perfect score each time! However, depends when you "perceive the hazard!" The Mad Young Feline twins seem not to be "breeding out"

The lads and lasses tried it out - and it appears to be the case. Hmmm? that long to respond



In practice - on go-karts and dodgem - those twins are ...

"competitive".....


comes to mind

I should hasten to add that it is not the same sort of skill as being in driving seat where you are as I once pointed out "following and very much involved with the plot with a relaxed concentration" - and you are in the lead role inter-acting with the other road users

In front of a computer screen .. you are I think a little more detached and your brain is not quite as "involved" and certainly not pro-actively and reactively involved in observing, anticipatting and planning immediate response by feathering of brakes, choosing gears, and positioning ...

And as the twins and others older than them across the family have discovered - you can train for this kind of test - but actually being in the car is a much different matter.

In the car - you play for "real" and you have more than a mouse click to think about! As a tool to train to spot hazards and introduction to COAST ideas - fine... but high scores on a computer game do not maketh safe drivers. Lessons with a TRAINED teacher and putting that training wisdom into practice is more valuable.

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I hate the hazard test. The only things they count as hazards are things you are 1 second from crashing in to. On my first go I pressed about 15 times for every 1 hazard, as I was taking the view that it might be better to take some evasive action BEFORE it's too late.

The theory test is fine, the HP is horrible... It's another big big mistake... They think it'll actually improve your hazard perception abilities, but I would agree with IG. I only scraped a pass in my HP, yet perceiving hazards in my driving test wasn't a problem...

I also didn't have the foggiest notion what was happening for the HP, I had never tried a practise question...

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Mike

I heard the Chairman of the British Association of Driving Instructors (I think that was the correct name) interviewed on R4 a while ago and he was very disparaging about the Hazard Perception test... He said that he'd been an instructor for about 20+ years and he failed it every time he took it; whereas his wife, a non-driver, passed it every time!

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Per "Express" = page 21 - only 29 out of 1000 motorists recognised 10 common signs.

I must be amongst this toppest minority as I got them all right

Eeezy peezy! But staggering to find that only handful get right..

Und since I have not scanned und for some reason - Mad Doc think he has not got "knack" yet as his scans seem to require widest screen ...

He ist working on purrfection! We are both complete muppets with these computer doo-dahs.. und he say I am "menace to English as wot it should be spoke" too

But enough of that ..

Quicky Quiz und please bear with my English!

1. 54% recognises the little blue circle with the bike und the grown up with child.

Ist

a) No pedestrian or cycle?
b) Cycle/pedestrian route?
c) Segregated cycle/pedestrian route?

d) For fun - what would a cyclist do?

2. Triangle with a bike depicted (54% knew this one too!)

Ist

a) NO cycling
b) Pedal cycles only
c) Cycle route ahead

Und I try to be tongue in cheekiest cheek

3. Almost 55% got this one..

Triangle which has little picture of car with something going boom means ...

a) Vehicle may spontaneously combust
b) Vehicle has petrol in tank
c) Vehicle carries something which ist inflammable?
d) Vehicle carries explosives
e) Vehicle carries a set of necklaces und may use them against certain hazards

f) Fire Brigade priority route
g) Unexploded doughnut und plenty of jam mean BiB at over the ton down the hard shoulder

4. Triangle show what look like and upside down Y

a) Road narrows?
b) Chicane?
c) Pinch point ahead?
d) Dual Carriageway end?
e) Roads converge ahead?

61% got this right!

5. Lolly sign! Nein - Not THE LOLLY

BUT

Lolly with rear end of car und a caravan

61% got it right...

a) NO towed caravans in Lake District
b) NO towed caravans full stop
c) Warning .. slow moving caravan on road!
d) Caravans only

6. Triangle with what look like horizontal boobies in black bra! (Ist second son - one of our really terrible twins ... You see what we put up with describe... He is breeding out on that .. we do not know where he gets this from.. he has far too many girls running after him.. )

But our lieber headache of teenager with the rampant hormones apart

Ist this triangel warning us of

a) double humped bridge ahead?
b) speed bumps
c) Potholes in road

(65% were correct .. )

7. Triangle with a little chuff chuff Tomas the Tank Engine train

68% were correct

Ist it

a) warning you that Thomas the Tank Engine ist talking to the Fat Controller ahead?
b) Level crossing ist ahead...
c) Level crossing without any barrier

8. 71% got this one

Lolly - red rim - blue background - red cross..

a) No entry/
b) No waiting
c) Nop stopping.

9. Triangle which show black triangle und 10% on longest slant downwards

(I keep the math out of this as this confuse I think you get it .. acutest angle at lowest point. )

81% get this
a) Steep downward hill
b) Steep upward hill
c) Reduce speed by 10%

10) Triangle with two horizontal arrow

a) You not allowed to turn any direction
b) Two way traffic cross one way.
c) Only cyclist can turn either direction
d) You turn if you want to .. but be careful



90% got it right!

Ist worrying.. these are basics... und cyclists in London fared worse per the survey per another tabloid

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By the way - despite "harder" test - new drivers performed the worst in this survey und wimmin - also performed badly.

Gosh .. am definitely an odd wild female feline then

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Nicht ganz im Lot!
Ich setze mich immer wieder in die Nesseln! Der Mad Doc ist mein Mann! Und ich benutzte seinen PC!

UND OUR SMILEYS? Smile ... und the the world smiles with you.
Smiley guy seen when you read
Fine me for Safe Speed
(& other good causes..)

Greatest love & Greatest Achievements Require Greatest Risk
But if you lose the driving plan - don't lose the COAST lesson.
Me?
Je ne regrette rien!

You just have to dumb down your skills to play the computer game. Madness. I had to learn to play the game to take my HPT as all ADIs who hadn't taken it as part of their qualifying exams have to take it. I learnt to play the game well enough to pass. Now I think if I couldn't perceive hazards my students would have crashed my car countless times Well after a week of practicing (and failing) at home I wandered off to the theory test centre...

I find the HPT clips very strange: No peripheral vision, view just out the front of the car, in some instances too fast into hazards, changing direction too late; too close to the vehicle in front; braking late. I don't think accelerator sense was used at all. So much for eco driving. Now there's a topic