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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 17:12 
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They're the type of nutters that give the rest a bad name. The speed cameras let him get away with it long enough, and not even a CO would have stopped him.

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Just goes to show. If we have traf pols instead of cameras he would probably have got caught sooner.

But then that is not how things are done nowadays.... :x

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It seems to me we have no evidence it was him on every occasion.

What if the bike was being used by a number of people who had a deal that if one was caught they would put their hand up for all offences? What if this guy has been paid to take the rap?

It's a travesty of justice brought about by mindless speed cameras.


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Gizmo wrote:
Just goes to show. If we have traf pols instead of cameras he would probably have got caught sooner.

But then that is not how things are done nowadays.... :x


maybe so, but the intelligence that was built up by the SCP or the mobile operator was passed onto the traf pol or other depts for a sting operation, there are set procedures you know :!: :!:

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Just goes to show. If we have traf pols instead of cameras he would probably have got caught sooner.

Indeed, particularly as he was disqualified from driving at the time.

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Did a camera stop him?

Do you really think that a camera is the right way to catch nutters and disqualified drivers?

Do you think that there's any equivalence at all between his behaviour and the behaviour of the average motorist caught on camera?

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……caught doing 90mph past a school……

Was this during chucking out time (deserves nothing less than flogging) or was it during the small hours (making this reported fact rather academic) ?

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He also gave a one-fingered salute to a camera as he roared past on a 600cc Suzuki at 71mph.

Seems to me the cameras created the monster!


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maybe so, but the intelligence that was built up by the SCP or the mobile operator was passed onto the traf pol or other depts for a sting operation, there are set procedures you know :!: :!:


Yep...

Old school.....
Police see somebody riding dangerously, they get stopped and busted

New way.
Police sit in the office filling out forms. Wait till you get a call from the public grassing up a guy. If you are lucky no one gets killed in the mean time.


So if you keep off the "intelligence" radar you have nothing to fear.

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Gizmo wrote:
Just goes to show. If we have traf pols instead of cameras he would probably have got caught sooner.

But then that is not how things are done nowadays.... :x


maybe so, but the intelligence that was built up by the SCP or the mobile operator was passed onto the traf pol or other depts for a sting operation, there are set procedures you know :!: :!:


That's not what I call 'intelligence'.

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Did a camera stop him?

Do you really think that a camera is the right way to catch nutters and disqualified drivers?

Do you think that there's any equivalence at all between his behaviour and the behaviour of the average motorist caught on camera?


no the camera did not stop him, he self highlighted his actions, maybe too naive to think they would not be followed up

come on paul, the cameras do not catch nutters or disquals directly but they supply the evidence to conduct the follow up enquiries, maybe just maybe one day you will realise this.

no his behaviour is 1000% different to your average motorist


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Yep...

Old school.....
Police see somebody riding dangerously, they get stopped and busted

New way.
Police sit in the office filling out forms. Wait till you get a call from the public grassing up a guy. If you are lucky no one gets killed in the mean time.

So if you keep off the "intelligence" radar you have nothing to fear.



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"When he was stopped, he put his hands up straight away even though his face was not on any of the pictures.


So we only have his word that he committed each offence.

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The bike, said to belong to a friend who was abroad,

How convenient.

What worries me is that this bike was most likely being shared around, I really doubt that it was only being used by this one person. So we have one nutter in jail and how many still out there?


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Presumably the NIP went to the registered keeper of this bike - the one who "lives abroad". :roll:

Copped by the same camera operator three times in nd day


Er - :? :? :scratchchin: What was more important £180 in fine or immediate removal of a very unsafe person on the road :roll:

why on earth did they not supply this details of this bike to the police at that point?

Surely, if the purpose of the cam is to remove these nutcases for all our sakes, then those cam operators should have acted decisively at that point. They have the reg on film .

We have one van operating here - the crew advise immediately if they come across someone like this.

We try to cop them on that day. We cannot afford to allow this kind of idiot continue. For all we know - stolen bike, disqualified....

As it turns out - he was riding whilst disqualified anyway. Bike may also have been used by others as well. Presumably the person "who lives abroad and owns this bike" has been notified that it has been confiscated. He may face a whopping bill if it is still in the pound on his return. He will, of course, be livid if it has been crushed. He should be livid to discover his "friend" TWOCed his bike as well. :roll:

That is - assuming the person who owns this bike "lives abroad" :wink:

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come on paul, the cameras do not catch nutters or disquals directly but they supply the evidence to conduct the follow up enquiries, maybe just maybe one day you will realise this.

gees, you really are living in noddy land aren't you? How would your wonder cameras have caught this idiot if he'd been using false plates or no plates?


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come on paul, the cameras do not catch nutters or disquals directly but they supply the evidence to conduct the follow up enquiries, maybe just maybe one day you will realise this.

gees, you really are living in noddy land aren't you? How would your wonder cameras have caught this idiot if he'd been using false plates or no plates?


And another reason why this crew should have called it in immediately - so that the local plod could be on look -out. Three times past the same van? :scratchchin: Could be residing within a local radius of the patch. :roll: :wink:

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And another reason why this crew should have called it in immediately - so that the local plod could be on look -out. Three times past the same van? :scratchchin: Could be residing within a local radius of the patch. :roll: :wink:


i would have called it in no probs at all, along with other things :scratchchin:

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Unbelieveable that this guy wasn't stopped sooner. He was obviously a complete idiot.

The sad thing really, is that it's these sort of idiots which only end up driving support for cameras from the general public who are scared of nutters like this. And yet of course it's these sort of idiots who actually aren't worried about cameras, making them useless against this sort of thing.

Thankfully noone was heard, but still, a classic symptom of less police on the roads :(


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So I assume his bike was not registered and insured?

or was he just ignoring the NIPs.

or perhaps he was going the other way?


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