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PeterE
PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 17:08 
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It's not only happening on the roads :o

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0, ... 41,00.html

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Train drivers get lessons on going slowly to cut fuel bills
By Ben Webster, Transport Correspondent

COMMUTERS could face slower journeys under plans to conserve energy by teaching train drivers to accelerate less quickly and coast where possible.

The Office of Rail Regulation has instructed train companies to introduce training sessions for drivers to teach them how to reduce fuel consumption. The techniques include learning the precise point where it is possible to cut the power and coast to the next station.

The companies will inspect data recorders in the cab of each train to check how well drivers have performed. Those who drive in a fuel-inefficient way, accelerating too quickly or for too long and then braking hard, will be sent for remedial training.

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How is it different to the sensible advice given to car drivers to plan ahead and avoid heavy late braking where possible?

Obviously traffic lights and railway signals work in completely different ways but the principle of slowing down if following another train signal to signal in the desire to keep moving rather then stopping is a sensible idea - reduces costs, wear and tear and gives a smoother ride.
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So sensible in fact, that the principle of coasting to the next scheduled stopping point has been part of railway operational practice for decades...

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Ah.

So it will now take even LONGER to reach a destination using public transport than what is takes now!!!!

What an incentive.........

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SigmaMotion wrote:
So it will now take even LONGER to reach a destination using public transport than what is takes now!!!!

Yes, the point of posting the article was not that drivers would be taught how to coast properly to meet schedules, which is common sense,
but that they would be in some circumstances expected to go more slowly and fail to meet the timetable to save fuel, and that the timetables might be extended...

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Twister wrote:
So sensible in fact, that the principle of coasting to the next scheduled stopping point has been part of railway operational practice for decades...


Saving fuel in trains is certainly not a new idea. In the days of steam the driver and fireman could earn bonuses dependant on the amount of coal saved compared to the average for the line. Depending on the company the bonus was either paid immediately or saved and paid as a lump sum when they retired.

They still had to arrive on time though...
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PeterE wrote:
but that they would be in some circumstances expected to go more slowly and fail to meet the timetable to save fuel, and that the timetables might be extended...


And incur a £60 per minute fine, plus £60 per minute any other train is delayed? I don't think so.

Network Rail plan the timetables after getting bids for the amount of services the Train Operating Companies want to run, so the longer the timetable the less paths are available. Therefore its clearly not in their interests.

It may make a good 'It's an outrage story' :yawn: but I can confidently predict it won't be used increase jouney lengths.
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