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In MacDonald's case, they supplied the coffee; in the schools' case, they did not supply the roads. AFAICT, case law exists to show that the schools' responsibilities end with the school day and the school gates. Of course, civil law is likely to change and each attempt in a precedent-setting court can change things. So, while there may at some time be a precedent that shows schools have responsiblity outside the current boundaries, I'm reasonably sure that it's not the case right now.

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Will

I have to negotiate a couple of schools on my commute. The blind, crass driving selfishness of many parents on the school run, the unpredictability of the kids and the conspicuous lack of supervision by school staff make this a dangerous and unpleasant aspect of any journey.

No wonder the need has arisen to look at responsibilities. Schools need to be a bit more responsible but I don't know what can be done about parents. My sister in law is a teacher and has to endure torrid streams of abuse from parents around the smallest and most reasonable issues.

Certainly one of the biggest problems seems to be the design of layouts on or outside school where a large amount of kids need to be picked up/dropped off relatively quickly.

From the NHS's point of view we want parents and kids to walk where possible to limit obesity. A £30,000 speed camera by a school seems unlikely to save many lives, but the equivalent amount spent on getting local parent's and kids walking safely to and from home would significantly reduce heart disease, diabetes etc etc and save 100s. Get healthier and all of a sudden you don't have waiting lists, cut price healthcare etc.

More importantly, maybe we could see the back of MPVs and 4x4s for ever.

Unfortunately, that's all you can see during the school run anyway

(ducks: sorry, that was irresistible )

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Will

But oh so very true!!!!

OK, I'm still fairly new at this and so far I have managed to work out most of the abbreviations but I regularly see "AFAICT" and I still cannot work out what it means.

Maybe there need to be a "commonly used abbreviations" link that I could go to when I find one I do not understand.

Sorry to skip off topic but it's driving me crazy trying to work it out.

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Ross

Yes I'm a hoon, but only on the track!!!!

As Far As I Can Tell.

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"Show me someone who says that they have never exceeded a speed limit, and I'll show you a liar, or a menace." (Austin Williams - Director, Transport Research Group)

Any views expressed in this post are personal opinions and may not represent the views of Safe Speed

Thanks Peter,

AFAIACIDGAD but it's nice to know...

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Ross

Yes I'm a hoon, but only on the track!!!!

Googling for "internet abbreviations" chucks up more links than you could possibly visit in an entire lifetime (or, at the very least, during that part of the day at work which is allocated to visiting sites of precisely no relevance to the work you're doing ). So to narrow the field a little, here's the first three which seemed pretty comprehensive - although UIVMM none of them are by any means complete...

http://www.webenet.com/internetglossary.htm
http://bovis.gyuvet.ch/3dict/390ainet.htm
http://www.anapsid.org/internet/smileys.html

But those references have missed out WYBMAPIITY

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Will

Ooh! I'm famous! I decided my findings with regard to that road bridge, and the unfair castigation of motorists who are seemingly blamed for the casualties there, were worthy of being brought to the attention of the Council Tax paying public. So I sent in my story.

I got a call from a journalist covering Twyford, Berks to say they were going to run a story. I thought it might be a short column on page 10, but no - it's front page news!

I said they could print my name, if they added that I was not on a campaign against the children who cross that road, but a campaign to identify the real causes of accidents at this roundabout, with a view to the council taking steps to improve the situation by alerting pedestrians to the hazards of crossing the A4, instead of targeting motorists with a "speed kills" campaign, where speed is clearly not the issue. I am satisfied the newspaper complied with my wishes.

Story: http://www.maidenhead-advertiser.co.uk/ ... news1.html

Well done, DM! I'm a bit disappointed that the school and council responses seem to be "we're doing all we can already". They seem to have given up on trying to find a solution and instead just say "this is what we've done". Sorry, BUT if it isn't working YOU NEED TO TRY TO FIND A BETTER SOLUTION!

Maybe they should get a lolipop lady - to swat the little b***ers up the steps if they try to dodge across without using the bridge