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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 18:22 
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In ordinary circumstances the police would be all too happy to steal my money for breaking any of the minor technical laws they enforce.

It is their excessive enforcement of these minor technical laws which is why I can not break any of those technical laws in order to help them. That would be letting them get away with too much.

The police have nowhere important enough to go that I should break any law for them.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 09:19 
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This is not a get out of jail free card, it wont get you out of speeding offences unless an officer will stand up in court and state that they authorised you to speed.


In other words, you will, on recieving your Scamera NIP, have to go to all the effort and expence of tracking down the relevent Police officer, pusuading him to testify! employing a solicitor, going to court, making your case (all with the possibiity that you might well still lose, in which case you will be doubly punished for having the insolance to challance the the state machine) and putting up with all the stress and loss of income (which you will will not be compensated for even if you do win!)

This is hardly a convincing argument!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:22 
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That’s because the argument always goes something like “it may not be a perfect system but it works more than it doesn’t”.

To which I say, what a bunch of crap!

If normal regular harmless well-meaning members of the public can get prosecuted for something, then it’s wrong and it needs fixing – plain and simple!

The ‘fix’ isn’t rocket science but there again, it isn’t profitable.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 04:57 
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Indeed.

I do not want folk to brake in panic when we loom up on full blues/twos. I want them to be looking ahead - using COAST and creating and space and assisting our overtakes as safely as possible.

We do not expect someone to break laws either. We have that exemption when on an emergency shout and a hell of a lot of taxpayers' cash has been invested in training us to cope in such situations.

Unfortunately - folk jump out of their skins at times and start panicking. :roll: I do not know if they think we will fine them for not "jumping to attention" or something.

My advice - keep calm. Do not break the law or compromise any safety for yourselves.


Create a Space .. that gap for us to move into on an overtake - which simply means "assisting a normal overtake situation" in real common sense terms. :wink: If you are at a red light. Don't panic or go through the light. We have the woo-woos .. and the big flashing lights and we can around - :listenup: only and only if it is SAFE for us to do so and will not cause further bother. :roll:


i treat coppers like anyone else. if you are joining the carriageway i will give a flash, if you are trying to overtake i will give you a couple of left winks (quick indicator) and if you have the blues and twos on i will pull as far left as i can with a left indicator on and wave you past if needs be (i can see further). generally all of these actions provokes a thanks of some kind whether it be a wave, a few flashes of blues or indicators etc. a bit of mutual respect and understanding goes a long way :)

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 08:46 
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May as well post a story here, since it's on topic.

Driving into Stafford one time, along the road that goes past the RAF base, SC, 50 limit, lots of traffic coming the other way, I notice a police Astra approaching from behind with the blues and twos going.

I decide that there isn't anywhere I can stop easily and that the Astra would be unable to overtake me, so I speed up to match speeds with the Astra, about 75ish. A moment later there is a wide junction where a minor road merges from the left. I put my left signal on and speed up about 10 mph more to increase the gap between me and the Astra, giving me room to break hard and pull into the junction without the Astra needing to slow down at all.

I got a wave from the police passenger as they passed.

This was a couple of years ago, I am however heading towards Ziltro's conclusion that such things should only be done for ambulances and fire engines and the like because the police can't be trusted to not prosecute you for it any more.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:51 
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did anyone see the program that showed a bus pulling over to allow a police car to pass? the driver decided that the best place to stop was the brow of a hill so the police officers couldnt see if it was clear to pass. :roll:

i had one on friday night come out of nowhere. i came out of asda grangemouth (depot) heading for the other depot in falkirk. its a dual carriageway which i crossed when nothing was coming from the left (the other carriageway heading the same way as me) yet as soon as i straightened up i spotted the blues in my mirror right behind me as the lanes merged. my instand reaction (without thinking first) is to look ahead then at the road to my right. clear to overtake, enough room to pass me = good stopping place. i always indicate to let them know i have seen them and if the view is not as clear from a lower vehicle as my view is i always stick my arm out to wave them past.

the strange thing is i dont recognise how i have gone from the usual 'panic and stop' to instant reaction and getting it right without actually thinking about it. i certainly dont remember being trained in correct procedures for these circumstances so how did i develop it and how do you develop it in those who should be getting it right but dont?

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