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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 14:14 
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Are You Fed Up With Britain's Roadworks?

Wednesday April 22,2009
By Geoff Marsh & Emily Garnham for express.co.uk

The Daily Express has launched a landmark campaign to Get Britain Moving - and we need YOUR help.

Our roads are a national disgrace. Potholes alone cost British drivers a staggering £1million in repairs every single day.

But while roadworks blight every city, town and village in the country, nothing ever improves.

The traffic in the UK only gets worse, with millions of motorists stranded in queues every day as as workmen dig up holes - and leave them unattended.

Last year, we spent 140 million hours stuck in traffic jams. But while road users paid an astonishing £32 billion in tax, a pathetic £8 billion was spent on the road network.

So, Express.co.uk is launching a nationwide crusade to sort out the mess on Britain's roads - and we need YOUR help.

We want to know how bad the situation is in your area.

Are there roadworks in YOUR street, or on your way to work, that have brought traffic to a standstill?

Is traffic being made worse in YOUR area because workmen have dug holes in the road and then abandoned them?

How much of your working day do YOU spend struck in traffic jams?

We want to know where Britain's worst roadworks are, so we can help get them fixed.

Please send us pictures, if you have them, plus details of where the problem is, the delays it's causing and what you think should be done.

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Brian Gregory, from the Association of British Drivers, said: "We're right behind Express.co.uk's campaign to Get Britain Moving.

"Drivers get an exceedingly poor deal in this country We are treated as children or morons or worse.

"The roads that we are travelling on are actually making things more dangerous.

"From structural damage to vehicles caused by potholes to poorly lit roads - all these fly in the face of Government pledges to improve road safety."

He added: "We pay a fortune every year in road tax but the amount that goes back into the roads is tiny.

"In the US they raise £51bn in road user taxes and £49bn goes back into ROADS - never mind transport.

"We've never tried to keep up with traffic growth by building the road network we desperately need as a country.

"What have we got? We've got third world road transport thinking, endless queues that could be easily avoided and a government which is anti-car."

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 21:59 
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Being very cynical, I can see this being used as an excuse to raise road tax, never mind that none of the raise will be used on the roads.

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i always thought the cones were for cutting public spending. leaving them in situ means they dont need to pay someone to collect them and they dont have to pay for storage :D

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 01:00 
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I picked this out of one of the budget reports:

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Darling announced that the widely expected car scrappage scheme, designed to help the car industry, would be introduced shortly and would run until March next year.

But he confirmed that fuel duty would rise in September and then in April for each of the next four years as a way of bringing in revenue.


Second paragraph, yep the motorist is getting shafted again !

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I picked this out of one of the budget reports:

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Darling announced that the widely expected car scrappage scheme, designed to help the car industry, would be introduced shortly and would run until March next year.

But he confirmed that fuel duty would rise in September and then in April for each of the next four years as a way of bringing in revenue.


Second paragraph, yep the motorist is getting shafted again !


And the rise is going to be 2p in September 1p over inflation for the next four April's. Though how this shower cam make plans beyond the next election...

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 20:36 
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There seems to be a "whatever" or disproportionate approach to closing/restricting roads for roadworks in the last couple of years or so, with works being carried out on a timescale that has complete disregard to the disruption they're causing on often arterial routes around london. The recent gas main replacement at east finchley reduced the crossroads to 4-way lights for about 5 months- FFS how long does it take to dig a hole and stuff some pipe in it? In addition I've gone out of my way to avoid a roadworks jam-up only to find the route that should be providing relief is also being dug up, you begin to wonder if they plan these things to work in parallel.

Most annoying of all is when they close a bit of road in somewhere like camden, as the number of one way streets and blocked turns create something little short of a maze where there's only one effective route point-to-point, then they come along, shut a road like it doesn't matter... :banghead:

I used to think oversight for londons roads was in the hands of car-hating tofu-munching militant cyclists that didn't really understand traffic and cars, but now I think it's something worse than that; Something far more ominous... I'm not sure what exactly, but a conspiracy involving sadistic perverts attempting to bring about the downfall of civilised society is my best guess. Because the fact is, you can't be this crap by accident or ignorance, it has to be design.

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Hairy Ben, IMO it's worse than that!...... ALL the ruddy parties are on the same track. It makes no difference mate, who you vote for......you'll get the same crap! All the shananigans prior to elections is BULL! WE DON'T have democracy anymore! It's an establishment dictatorship that tells Elected Governments what they are going to do!

And heaven help them if they don't!!! For all the forces of "the secret state" will be against them..

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On the positive side I am impressed by the way Motorway contractors work through the night to get then job finished sooner and reduce disruption. Should be extended to all road works. Might cost more to do the but the overall cost, taking in the cost of disruption, would be less. Unfortunately market based accounting js is unable to look beyond immediate costs

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It just needs a "don't use the car" day to be arranged.
After the resulting carnage, where prospective passengers get crushed in the rush at bus stops/train stations they may get the message.
But they'll probably just arrest the arrangers and put-up taxes on pt ticket sales.
Oh, and most of those working nights on road works are paid little extra...some get no extra payment for night work at all. And they get to have the risk of drivers ignoring the worker-safety speed restrictions. On the 421 near Bedford they have 40mph restrictions, totally ignored by all. I noted that while the cars/trucks etc were driving at their normal speeds past the 40mph restriction signs they failed to notice the camera van on the bridge overlooking the carriageway. Oh well....

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dcbwhaley wrote:
On the positive side I am impressed by the way Motorway contractors work through the night to get then job finished sooner and reduce disruption. Should be extended to all road works. Might cost more to do the but the overall cost, taking in the cost of disruption, would be less. Unfortunately market based accounting js is unable to look beyond immediate costs


You can't do night works in urban areas because of noise.

One thing you never see much of is good old traffic duty- a human brain able to decide how to direct traffic best and keep junctions flowing.

In America the contracters, everyone from architects down to manual labour are often on bonusses where they trouser more money the sooner the job is completed, because the state figures a freeway out is costing business say £10M a day then they're losing millions in taxes, but in this country the idea of some hairy arsed construction worked pocketing £100k a year would offend too many sensibilities

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