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That would have been a great attempt at a bait, if it wasn't for the facts that your own answers (or at least those given within the FOI) are apparently wrong!.
Your own engineering answer left a lot to be desired too.

There are still some technical questions to be resolved.

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I must get some straps for my ribs; they just can't take it any more.

The Herts County Council answers are somewhat different from what mine would be to those questions and if you asked me those questions via FoI I would simply refuse to answer them as they do not comply with the Act and do not have to be answered.

I believe I have said there is no connection between the flash and the aerial other than the bolt that attaches it to the case but hey, you don't need to take any notice of me.

Still 6 and a half days to go for your imagineering; good luck.

You wouldn't get asked this via FOI, since a FOI request goes to those in authority and the camera partnerships, something which you are not connected with.

I note that you feel free to give your erroneous opinions on here without reprise!

Having had a quick look at the Herts CC answers , and those given to me by my SCP ( wARKS)- there seems to be a deal of discrepancy over the purpose of the additional unit . The aerial - given that the instalation is now digital as opposed to the origonal wet film , I could conclude that one feasable purpose is for the unit to be interrogated for offences ,and those pictures to be transmitted to local offices ,for onward transmission to area SCP .

However ,GS's performance would ( if he's visiting this site in his official capacity ,which he led us to believe some time ago when he issued a formal letter ) and should be of concern to his employers - most would view this as bringing their organisation into desrepute - perhaps some of his employers might be invited to view his ramblings and rantings , with a view to considering if he is fit for his dutieS

Then again , GS is now shouting loud and clear the message that we cannot leave road safety to people who put personal ego above road safety .If he was indeed,as HE PROFESSES TO BE ,A ROAD SAFETY PROFESSIONAL.he would not be indulging in his childish exhibition, but would be striving to tell us all about how this marvelous new additions were helping road safety . ( but then we have yet to be convinced that this single narrow minded approach to road safety works ) . But ,we do approach these things with an open mind ( not theclosed minds of SCP) - SO PRAY ENLIGHTEN US ,oh wizard of the depths

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Do you care to explain why that could be?


That's so useful, thanks!
The odd thing is that you did answer them, in this forum...




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I could ask this yet again, but what's the point?

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I was rather hoping that given all of the information you have you would have worked out what it was for, good luck.

I can accept there is no RF comms link between the slave and the camera (what’s the point).
We already know, through Botach’s FOI:


It could be that there is a risk the transmitter could affect the operation of the radar, or simply makes approval a nightmare, hence it being located on a separate unit.

However, the only information you have given about this (the aerial) is that there is no connection to one:

This clearly implies the aerial is for show (which we know is daft), either that or you are being particularly obfuscatious.
Please can you just get to your point, whatever it is!

I ask again: Is there any truth to the claim (from the PePiPoo forums) that the aerial is there to receive an "amber alert" which would temporarily turn the setup (including the gatso) into a full-on ANPR system?

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dont know why i keep dipping into this thread... specially when GS is on it!

my powers of deduction would conclude:
1 - to go digital you need an extra flash
2 - to go digital you might want to use some wireless method to transmit images/data
3 - to use some wireless method you'd want an aerial
4 - to reduce the cost you don't want to replace the housing
5 - you're already installing an extra flash unit, and wiring it to the new camera innards (if the aerial is only for comms not triggering the flash) so you may as well have the aerial incorporated into the new hardware that you have to install anyway.
6 - if you've got a digital system chances are you'll want to upgrade the software at some point
7 - if you've got some wireless method you might as well be able to do the upgrade remotely

Since I have looked into the unit [galvanised case] next to a truvelo I can state that it [that one] has comms inside it anyway.
The truvelo already has a flash unit inside it, and I can see no reason for the add-on unit to have a diffuser for a flash.

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56 years after it was decided it was needed, the Bedford Bypass is nearing completion. The last single carriageway length of it.We have the most photogenic mayor though, always being photographed doing nothing

Oh hey, Greenshed, as you're around again, would you mind very much answering some of the other threads that you've ignored because you've been shown to be wrong? If you have trouble finding them try a search on your username, it'll produce a list for you.

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quite agree ,Ed - there is some connection between units -when the pole was being erected ,I noticed a corrugated orange pipe being laid between the two units ( about 4" dia ) ,not too deep too ( wonder if it's armoured )

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yeh i noted the new tarmac linking the two i happened to run past in nuneaton a few weeks back... obviously could just be power, but if the aerial aint for triggering there must be a trigger going under the pavement too.

Couldn't see the point of the aerial taking any part in the capture process - basically because all that was needed was to damage aerial and camera was out of action -which would only take an air rifle pellet of three ,or similar .

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The new unit is clearly a flash unit.

I would say it is to combat flash back caused by sprays such as this one:

http://www.phantomplate.com/

by changing the angle there will no longer be a reflection in the direction of the camera.

As I said on a similar post ,old what's his name from under the waves has said it's not 100% reliable - perhaps this new flash is to make it 100% reliable . One prediction though ( and the only answer will be more trafpols on duty) - all this will do is to increase the number of illegal cars on the road -such as spotted in my street - a fiesta with legal plates - (if fitted on the correct colour car ) .But how many cops depending on the latest technology would spot that ?-plates show car legal( no computer alarms ring) -why bother about colour ?????

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

Some years ago I received a succession of reminders about unpaid parking tickets for illegal parking in central Manchester. The reminders referenced my registration number. Sadly I didn't own a Bentley, only a humble Toyota.

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That explanation almost works, assuming those sprays work (which I don't believe), and the main flash didn't trigger - which would be a bit odd!

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If the two cars are on the road at the same time, the anpr system would alert to the similarity....and they could be at opposite ends of the country.
A bit of a pain for the genuine vehicle, and driver.

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56 years after it was decided it was needed, the Bedford Bypass is nearing completion. The last single carriageway length of it.We have the most photogenic mayor though, always being photographed doing nothing

Not saying both cars are on the road at same time-suspect they're not ,and not even certain that it's just two vehicles -it's possibly three even more of a small popular car in differing colours.

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It's now been 10 days. Do you care to address the questions posed to you?

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