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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 22:56 
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Can any of this apply to us


http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story ... id=3582678

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Very interesting.
This sounds to me to be very much in the domain of auditing and accountability and independent scrutiny.

Because the whole SCP apparatus is not a regular commercial organisation I'm not sure how these areas are dealt with, but I would have thought that a lot of the pertinent information was available to the public.

Things like:
- who are the auditors?
- what processes are audited?
- to what level are they audited?
- how often are they audited?
- who has access to the results/findings/recommendations?

Similarly for technical audits of equipment, systems and the procedures related to their use.
I presume that somewhere within this technical audit there would be details of the security of photographic evidence and data integrity, which is where the use of MD5 hashing techniques would be one possible aspect.

Does anyone have any official information on this?
Very interesting indeed :stirthepot: :scratchchin:


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Any views on this Paul

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Any views on this Paul


It's possible that similar circumstances exist in the Uk with 'digital' evidence. The only way to be sure is to run a test case. I'll ensure that the Pepipoo people are aware of the issue - they are best placed to find and commence a test case. If I get any news it'll be posted to these forums immediately.

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Any views on this Paul


It's possible that similar circumstances exist in the Uk with 'digital' evidence. The only way to be sure is to run a test case. I'll ensure that the Pepipoo people are aware of the issue - they are best placed to find and commence a test case. If I get any news it'll be posted to these forums immediately.


I doubt it helps in the UK since our system relies on the driver admitting the offence. Any time the equipment is seriously questioned the CPS abandon the case. Probably because if they lose then they open the floodgates.


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Any views on this Paul


It's possible that similar circumstances exist in the Uk with 'digital' evidence. The only way to be sure is to run a test case. I'll ensure that the Pepipoo people are aware of the issue - they are best placed to find and commence a test case. If I get any news it'll be posted to these forums immediately.


I doubt it helps in the UK since our system relies on the driver admitting the offence. Any time the equipment is seriously questioned the CPS abandon the case. Probably because if they lose then they open the floodgates.


Nah, that first sentence isn't right. There has to be legal evidence of an offence. The second sentence relates to the volume of work we're giving them...

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Looks like they are going if for the kill.. :D

http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story.jsp?sectionid=1258&storyid=3592349

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HUNDREDS of angry motorists inundated lawyers yesterday, ready to challenge fines issued by the state's crumbling speed camera network.

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The first link isn't working. Can anyone tell me what the title of the peice was so I can go see if it's still there somewhere.

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Another link...

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,16 ... 42,00.html


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Cheers Roger.

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